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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Astaro

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Still keeping up the coax that Infinity Slash Equinox’s selective intangibility somehow means it ignores durability

Hate to see Asta done this dirty by Raditz one-shots
 

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Dio Time Stops
Jotaro does his time stop when Dio's is about to end
Chain repeatedly

Also I forget but where was it stated or shown that it has a cooldown?
Yeah, it has a cooldown

Jotaro himself said he can’t stop time consecutively during the MiH fight

It only has the barest of minimum of cooldown as Jotaro needs to take a good breathe before doing it again.
Also, there's the Drama CD where DIO did use his laser eyes while in time stop against Jotaro in the final clash so there's that
Drama CD isn’t canon though. Either Dio can’t use most of his powers anymore due to Jonathan’s body screwing with it

Or Dio is just an idiot for not using them to guarantee his victory

Probably both
 

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it does have a cooldown, most notably in the Made in Heaven fight
although jotaro and dio are so many times faster than JJK characters idk that it would be a factor

still, city block level punches against town or coty level characters isn’t doing much
Where was this shown and why would it count towards Part 3 Dio and Jotaro, and where has it ever been calculated and why would it matter for characters who have FTL reactions?
 

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Where was this shown and why would it count towards Part 3 Dio and Jotaro, and where has it ever been calculated and why would it matter for characters who have FTL reactions?
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part 6 jotaro has the same time stop ability he had when he was younger, this is directly stated (because in part 4 and the beginning of Part 6, his time stop had weakened)
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I don’t think the cooldown would matter much against the sub-hypersonic JJK cast, as I already said, but the dc gap is big
 

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part 6 jotaro has the same time stop ability he had when he was younger, this is directly stated (because in part 4 and the beginning of Part 6, his time stop had weakened)
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I don’t think the cooldown would matter much against the sub-hypersonic JJK cast, as I already said, but the dc gap is big
I’m surprised people on this site didn’t know about that

It honestly helps explain why Dio didn’t just win. Jotaro is able to do the things he did while The World was in its cooldown phase
 

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part 6 jotaro has the same time stop ability he had when he was younger, this is directly stated (because in part 4 and the beginning of Part 6, his time stop had weakened)
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I don’t think the cooldown would matter much against the sub-hypersonic JJK cast, as I already said, but the dc gap is big
Why would it count for Dio when not only did he have a longer time stop after drinking Josephs blood, but being a Vampire makes his body much better at using time stop as shown by him increasing it to lengths Jotaro never did? Also if we are talking about characters who have reaction speeds in the FTL range, why would we assume the same "few seconds" mean our standard of them?
 

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So then Jotaro stops first and then Dio covers for him. We know Dio can spam his time stop considering how he was fucking with Polnareff
Yeah this throws the whole "Same Stand" thing on it's face if we believe Jotaro has his limit. The fact Dio could extend his time stop beyond his tells us the Stands are only similar but not the exact same.
 

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Why would it count for Dio when not only did he have a longer time stop after drinking Josephs blood, but being a Vampire makes his body much better at using time stop as shown by him increasing it to lengths Jotaro never did? Also if we are talking about characters who have reaction speeds in the FTL range, why would we assume the same "few seconds" mean our standard of them?
dio was never shown to chain timestops either, even at his peak Jotaro gets him by waiting his timestop out and freezing him there, he does it multiple times actually. Dio has a longer timestop length, presumably because he’s a Vampire (though this isn’t directly stated iirc), but the length he can stop time is the only solid difference. Diego with The World could also only stop time for 5 seconds, which implies it’s a human limit but again, that’s speculation afaik

also the stand profile says the 5 seconds of time stop are roughly equivalent to “normal human time” so I’m not sure why the cooldown being stated to be seconds also wouldn’t be. But I already acknowledged twice that if it is more based on stand user pov then it wouldn’t be an issue. It just doesn’t change that there is still a cooldown in general.
 

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I’m surprised people on this site didn’t know about that

It honestly helps explain why Dio didn’t just win. Jotaro is able to do the things he did while The World was in its cooldown phase
there’s also this weird area where iirc part 3 sort of treats SP moving through time as separate from it actually stopping time or some shit, I gotta reread that fight again
 

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The Stands have the same capabilities, but not the user. DIO’s an immortal and tireless vampire while Jotaro’s human, hence why he can easily spam his timestops without any strain (the stair scene with Polnareff being a good example of this) and after fully controlling Jonathan’s body, start increasing the duration on top of that to where he was eventually going to be able to stop time indefinitely as he claimed.

Anyway


An easy win for Mags… oh wait this is ComicVine. Where GOW is wanked to infinite Multiversal levels despite being some of the most limited and piss-weak “gods” in fiction
 
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