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To Aru Majutsu No Index Feats/Discussion/Analysis Thread - One Othinus To Rule Them All

Magic Gods and a Transcendent.

Both had stepped beyond the bounds of humanity. The higher ups of the Anglican Church and Roman Catholic Church couldn’t have predicted they would clash here.

The first to speak was Nephthys.

“Transcendent. We had left your divine school play alone, but you seem to have learned to talk big since we last saw you.”

“Magic Gods? Why should the girl listen to people who were born with nothing?”

It only occurred to Kamijou after he heard that.

Alice really was different. Stiyl had chosen the path of magic to resist an uncooperative reality. Even Niang-Niang and Nephthys had to be the same even if the scale was different. But Alice Anotherbible was something else. She was on the magic side, but she was one with talent.

“You don’t get to take things from other people just because you don’t have them. This is a problem you magicians fundamentally do not understand. Even the girl searched for money when she wanted a snack, but you magicians can’t do that.”

“You’re the one that stole from us,” said a voice. Magic God Nephthys’s somehow dry voice. “Transcendents are those who name themselves gods…or who want to be called gods. Meanwhile, we Magic Gods are those who others call gods. We’re similar to you, but fundamentally different. You aspire to be an existing god and work hard to try and reach that position, but we improve ourselves until we are referred to as new gods. There’s no need to actually fight – the result is already plain to see, don’t you think?”

Transcendent vs. Magic God.

Since both sides were extraordinary, Kamijou didn’t have a good sense of their relative powers or the threats they posed, but maybe that was one way of looking at it.

Except Alice Anotherbible also spoke.

Calmly.

“Are you sure about that?”

One of the brown beauty’s eyebrows twitched.

“Maybe you’re the originals and maybe you’re gods, but did you really have the resolve and responsibility to be known as gods?”

Nephthys in particular was a collection of the slaves and servants buried alive as pyramid grave goods. She was a Magic God who had been accidentally created by the mixture of a great magical device and many lives.

Alice had messed with the world without any kind of plan.

Kamijou highly doubted she had researched the details in advance.

But he knew that if anyone could draw the lucky card right when she needed it, it was her.

“You’re nothing more than the best humans. You wanted power surpassing that of a god, but you weren’t prepared to actually become a god and look after everyone. So the creation of all those new gods didn’t actually improve the world any. Just like you’re hunting down teacher for your own reasons now.”

“You talk big for a lab rat who was simply abducted and had her body altered.”

“Maybe so, but the girl and the other Transcendents did want to save people. Shoving all of that onto CRC was about the worst way of going about it, but that was our goal.”

Loved every second of this exchange

You just know these two groups have had past beef

:hestonpls
 
Hamazura centered volume next

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Already can’t wait for GT13
 
@Darth Zion Coronzon getting her redemption arc and joining Hamazura’s harem is locked in

“I never did think Aleister, the quintessential terrible human, could actually suppress Great Demon Coronzon for long.”

Coronzon?”

His eyebrows twitched.

Most anything related to the magic side was none of Hamazura Shiage’s concern, but there were a few individuals there he had a link to.

This was one of those.

He had worked with her in the UK but ultimately failed to save her. He had no idea what would have happened to Takitsubo Rikou, Dion Fortune, or himself if not for her.

Maybe she was evil.

But he still couldn’t just give up on he
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“A major Anglican unit is approaching the outside of the wall with help from the Amakusas who know a lot about this Eastern island nation, but who knows how much help they’ll be. If Coronzon, the 333 of dispersion, is serious about this, I imagine they’ll only give her more victims without accomplishing much of anything. If they use any ordinary methods, anyway.”

Wait.

Please wait a minute.

“That’s why I want your help, Hamazura. This is your business as much as it is mine. I doubt Kamijou Touma’s voice will reach Coronzon. So. Our help is needed to pull off a man-made miracle.”

The puzzle pieces fit together.

Hamazura Shiage.

He was the other possibility who could find success where Kamijou Touma and Accelerator could not.

He had an intensely bad feeling about this.

“Um.”

“Yes?”

Takitsubo silently elbowed him in the side, but it did no good.

He knew this question was as good as admitting defeat, but he was ultra terrified of not asking.

The idiot succumbed to the fear welling up within him.

Hamazura Shiage opened his mouth while dripping with sweat.



“Wh-what were you thinking we should do?”

“Have something of a reunion☆”

Her defeat in New Testament was simply delaying the inevitable

Can you imagine the endless shit talking between her and Mugino afterwards

:hestonpls
 
Even a Great Demon is helpless against the harem protagonist rizz....
I know some will probably be rolling their eyes over this outcome but I’m interested in seeing how this plays out

Despite using Hamazura as a pawn for her own interests and playing on his desire to save Dion Fortune to do so, they had an oddly student-teacher like relationship the whole time where she went out of her way to reach him what she knew way more than she should have bothered with a pawn

And especially for someone whose end goal was to end all of reality, she had no reason to live up to her side of the bargain like she did in actually helping Hamazura succeed in bringing back Dion

Especially since doing that very act partly led to her defeat

Will be interesting to hear her side of the story and why she did so
 

The worst part of this fandom?

- People pretending to know the series off watching the anime, maybe reading the occasional wiki article every now and then, but have never picked up a single volume yet think their a pro at talking about the series.

They’re always the ones with most garbage, ignorant takes.

- Hating on Misaka just because it’s trendy.

- People bitching about “leaks” of an upcoming novel that 9 times out of 10 end up being fake, or even worse, judging it just from illustrations with no clue of the context involved instead of just waiting until the shit is translated to read for themselves. Like they did with GT12. General whiners that just want to hear themselves complain as well for that matter.

- The occasional western tourist that somehow discovers this series and fandom and starts bitching about the fanservice. The fanservice has been a part of this series’ 20+ year long run, it aint going anywhere people. Either get used it and shut up or stick to your Steven Universe or some other safe shit.

Thankfully, this series is gatekept from the sheer amount of reading involved to really get into it being too much for the average normie that the last one happens pretty infrequently
 
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Decided to narrow it down to only up to New Testament while thinking of the bare minimum characters needed for a decent enough Story campaign.

Needs more slots for what I’d really want.

Magic side: Stiyl, Kanzaki, Acqua of the Back, Fiamma of the Right, Oriana, Itsuwa, Carissa, Gabriel / Misha, Marian, Thor, Levinia, Aleister, Coronzon, Samuel Mathers, Kamisato, Nephthys, High Priest, Niang-Niang

Science side: Kuroko, Awaki, Kakine, Mugino, Kinuhata, Frenda, Gunha, Kazakiri, Misaka-Imouto, Misaka Worst, Umidori, Ayu, Kihara Amata, Kihara Yuiitsu
 
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Realistically, you’d need a roster that rivals Budokai Tenkaichi 3 and Sparking Zero for this series

Other characters I’d throw in for a complete roster and most of the full story:

Magic Side: Aureolus, Sherry, Etzali, Agnese, Orsola (Isis-Demeter), Tsuchimikado, Vento, Terra, Knight Leader, Maiden of Versailles, Lessar, Brunhild, Ollerus, Silvia, Kihara Kagun / Bersi, Cendrillon, Freyja, Salome, St. Germain, Aiwass, Qliphah Puzzle 545

Throw in Genesis Testament: St. Germain-Touma, Aleister-Coronzon, Anna Sprengel, Alice, Aradia, Bologna Succubus, Good Old Mary, Mut Thebes, H. T. Trismegistus, Blodeuwedd, Alice Kingsford, and CRC.

For Science Side: Kihara Byouri, Kihara Enshuu, Kihara Noukan, Rensa 28 and 29

From GT: Maidono, Ladybird, the Hanatsuyu twins, Rakuoka

If we include the Science-side spin-offs

Railgun: Kongou, Kiyama Harumi w/ Level Upper, Level 6 Misaka, Doppelgänger, Kimi, Raifu, Tsurigane, Rakko

Astral Buddy: Junko, Arei, Iruka

Mental Out: Kamino, Kokuchou

Accelerator: Esther, Naru, Seike,

Dark Matter: Yuzuriha Ringo

Anbu No ITEM: Kaede, Ainame Caroline, Tachiuo Mary.

Could add more to Railgun and ITEM when I read the current Railgun arc and latest ITEM volume.
 
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Touma and Yuji would be best bros

Tsuchimikado and Megumi is very clever, given their whole thing for both of them are Shikigami

Kanzaki and Maki is badass

Yuta w/ Orsola, Gojo w/ Index, and Nanami and Komoe are just plain wholesome

I LOVE Misaka and Nobara

We need Gunha and Aoi Todo
 
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@One and Only @Darth Zion @Adamant soul @Paxton @Irradiance @NeloAngelo

So anyone think this is it for Crowley and he’ll finally die for good next volume?

This novel even mentioned how without Touma, the man already struggling with finding a new purpose. Which makes sense.

He made peace with the world being as it is by NT when he “died” and coming back, and all he did throughout GT was help Touma from the sidelines with dealing with Anna and the Bridge Builder’s Cabal. And that’s now been resolved.

And now knowing Anna Kingsford is gone for good broke him completely

Plus if Hamazura manages to redeem Coronzon, I doubt Crowley will remain trapped within the body like he currently is.
 
@One and Only @Darth Zion @Adamant soul @Paxton @Irradiance @NeloAngelo

So anyone think this is it for Crowley and he’ll finally die for good next volume?

This novel even mentioned how without Touma, the man already struggling with finding a new purpose. Which makes sense.

He made peace with the world being as it is by NT when he “died” and coming back, and all he did throughout GT was help Touma from the sidelines with dealing with Anna and the Bridge Builder’s Cabal. And that’s now been resolved.

And now knowing Anna Kingsford is gone for good broke him completely

Plus if Hamazura manages to redeem Coronzon, I doubt Crowley will remain trapped within the body like he currently is.
I wish he would stay dead but Kamachi doesn't like killing off characters so I see it likely he'll return at some point.
 
I wish he would stay dead but Kamachi doesn't like killing off characters so I see it likely he'll return at some point.
What @NeloAngelo said. Kamachi rarely kills characters permanently
I will say, if Crowley does finally move on next volume, Hamazura having any involvement with it would be hella ironic

Also, I love how this volume dispelled any illusion of Stiyl secretly seeing Touma as a friend and acting like a jerk to hide it.

Nah, nigga just straight up hates him and has been waiting for any excuse to kill him.

That is if him being more than a little enthusiastic about interrogating and torturing Touma when he was momentarily held hostage during the Coronzon arc or trying to kill him in Los Angeles during GT4 as soon as the mission went south from Kanzaki being taken out by the enemy from no fault on Touma’s part didn’t already do so.

Just the shit he tried in GT4 is why I’m glad Touma got a second chance to humiliate the cuck
 
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If Touma did die for good, who would be the one to inherit Imagine Breaker?

:hm

I bet it’d be Hamazura.
 
True fans would say Accelerator, cuz Hamazura's too lucky for it...
:mjgrin

But wouldn't it remain in his dead arm like Golden Dawn found it?
True, it did stay on the previous users mummified arm long after they died

Guess it would have transferred to someone had they gone through with cremating Touma’s body this volume
 
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