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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Like I said before, he won't lol.



It's funny seeing Powerscaling bring up that the Void Shiki wank is stupid(which it is) but then act as if Ryougi is just a bullet timer when Ryougi was able to outjump a pointblank Car Bomb explosion with C4 as the base... and Shiki with a Katana is fast enough that Knife Ryougi next to her is the equivalent of a zombie.
Mach 29+ is not bullet timing... let alone that.
those were clearly mach 30 bullets
 


This Otaku dude be like:

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Heaven's Door has the same range as Echoes, even if he was as fast as MiH it doesn't help him if someone is out of range.
Its Stars and Stripes hes fighting so he should be fine in the range department

Also the people in that thread are dumb, they keep thinking people said Rohan is physically as fast as MiH when the point was, he can draw fast enough not to get speed blitz'd instantly
 
Yeah, that was just to answer the question of "Why doesn't he just Heaven's Door all the opposition he runs into"

Even if he could, he still has range issues most stands do

But as you said, Star isn't going to fight him at range in the first place, unless she starts with the missiles
 


Getting dangerously close to NLF…



… and there it is.

Max glazing for a giant alien chick that lost to a random caveman with Excalibur and her durability being hyped to at most, withstand the heat of a star.

:hestonpls
 
Yeah, that was just to answer the question of "Why doesn't he just Heaven's Door all the opposition he runs into"

Even if he could, he still has range issues most stands do

But as you said, Star isn't going to fight him at range in the first place, unless she starts with the missiles
Yeah like if you got good range, a lot of stands just catch a dicking

Range is a huge problem for 90% of the stands in jojo
 


Getting dangerously close to NLF…



… and there it is.

Max glazing for a giant alien chick that lost to a random caveman with Excalibur and her durability being hyped to at most, withstand the heat of a star.

:hestonpls

Aren’t Fiamma’s best feats worse than shit you powerscale him to?

Only vaguely aware, but doesn’t he compare to that feat of moving/deleting stars from one of those angels? :hm

If not, where’s he stand so I can have a decent picture for discussion here :maybe
 
Aren’t Fiamma’s best feats worse than shit you powerscale him to?

Only vaguely aware, but doesn’t he compare to that feat of moving/deleting stars from one of those angels? :hm

If not, where’s he stand so I can have a decent picture for discussion here :maybe
I was more talking about not even Magic Gods being able to harm Sefar

Fiamma scales to Gabriel who can rearrange every star in the sky during WWIII and did the same with the Sun and every planet and moon in the Solar System in Angel Fall

Besides that, he also scales to Curtana Original (Curtana borrows a portion of Archangel Michael’s power, Fiamma’s Holy Right borrows an even greater degree to the point where if he tried to use Curtana himself, the swords would just get crushed from his own output)

Curtanas have gotten nice gains over the years, such a being able to slice through every phase and dimension that can be counted in whole numbers and in crossovers with Kamachi’s other works, rivals the White Queen’s Sword of Unsullied Truth
 
I was more talking about not even Magic Gods being able to harm Sefar
Like the people Othinus is peer to or something?

Like, Sefar might be tangentially comparable to Beast type shit if I gave it some thought, but ToAru's ceiling is higher by a substantial degree to my very limited knowledge
Fiamma scales to Gabriel who can rearrange every star in the sky during WWIII and did the same with the Sun and every planet and moon in the Solar System in Angel Fall
Every star in the sky? Like visible to the naked eye? Enhanced by telescopic view? Think the answer varies greatly for the observable universe IIRC. Good feat either way, just asking about the floor and ceiling.
Besides that, he also scales to Curtana Original (Curtana borrows a portion of Archangel Michael’s power, Fiamma’s Holy Right borrows an even greater degree to the point where if he tried to use Curtana himself, the swords would just get crushed from his own output)
Noted
Curtanas have gotten nice gains over the years, such a being able to slice through every phase and dimension that can be counted in whole numbers
Not sure how to gauge that. Like, it sounds impressive in the sense of the spatial range it possesses, but the actual raw power is a mystery? Like after that, is she bisecting the span of the universe? Earth? A street corner?

The more reduced that gets the harder it gets to discuss the magnitude.
crossovers with Kamachi’s other works, rivals the White Queen’s Sword of Unsullied Truth
I have no clue who or what that is dude. Context for those without it.
 
Fiamma is in a weird place of being above Multi-solar system beings (Angels) but being completely irrelevant to anything stronger than that.
He has a really short battle with Ollerus and Othinus (both nerfed or not trying at all) that some Toaru stans uses to wank Fiamma at higher levels.
 
Like the people Othinus is peer to or something?

Like, Sefar might be tangentially comparable to Beast type shit if I gave it some thought, but ToAru's ceiling is higher by a substantial degree to my very limited knowledge

Every star in the sky? Like visible to the naked eye? Enhanced by telescopic view? Think the answer varies greatly for the observable universe IIRC. Good feat either way, just asking about the floor and ceiling.
Every star visible in the sky.

According to Index, angels in general control every star in the universe at once.
Not sure how to gauge that. Like, it sounds impressive in the sense of the spatial range it possesses, but the actual raw power is a mystery? Like after that, is she bisecting the span of the universe? Earth? A street corner?
Phase are basically Nasuverse textures on a universal scale

Curtana Original does confirm its bisecting the universe itself

Carissa held up her sword that could slice through not just a manmade nuclear shelter but the earth and the universe itself

and reaching into other planes beyond it, also being able to harm the likes of Aiwass for power

That sword was an extreme spiritual item that fully united the three factions and four regions of the United Kingdom; it could draw on a portion of Archangel Michael's power while on British territory. If a qualified user released that power even for a moment, a swing of the sword would sever all dimensions at once and giant ruined materials would be created along the line of the slash.

Yes, all dimensions.

Assuming it could hit, that extraordinary power could penetrate the barrier between worlds and kill a being lurking in a different phase… for example, Holy Guardian Angel Aiwass who stayed in the layer of physical laws at the very bottom.

I have no clue who or what that is dude. Context for those without it.
Main antagonist and deuteragonist of Unexplored Summon Blood Sign

Running contender for most powerful being among Kamachi’s works.

Killed everyone in a crossover Kamchi wrote featuring several characters in his works, which included Touma and Othinus.

And in Blood Sign, Othinus was summoned as a god a whole tier lower than where White Queen stands, further emphasizing the difference in power between them confirmed in her own series, without the need of crossovers.

Coincidentally, Blood Sign’s a lot more like Fate.

Premise is human mages doing battle by summoning gods and mythological beings against each other for one.

And White Queen has an ego that match Gil and her Sword and Sword of Unsullied Truth is basically Gates of Babylon on steroids

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Other thing is Blood Sign is one of Kamachi's worst works :obamalaugh , like the characters are the most generic shit ever and the MC is Kirito number 2234322545 , Touma and friends are way more enjoyable.
 
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