alright, for shits and giggles, I gathered why Super Starscream is overkill for this unless proven otherwise https://onelastforum.com/threads/transformers-feats-discussion.71/post-5867 https://onelastforum.com/threads/transformers-feats-discussion.71/post-5871 https://onelastforum.com/threads/transformers-feats-discussion.71/post-40875 https://onelastforum.com/threads/transformers-feats-discussion.71/post-44517 https://onelastforum.com/threads/transformers-feats-discussion.71/post-44594 https://onelastforum.com/threads/transformers-feats-discussion.71/post-44738 also, a Vector Prime who just regained his memories wrenched the weapon of an entity that absorbed entire nebulae, turned it into his signature sword Rhisling, and proceeded to beat its ass, sending it to the beginning of time where it exploded into a Big Bang this is what happens when a more experienced Vector Prime tries to fight Master Megatron: