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i expected u to play like BLD from that position and bury the other guys in PoE if u arent mafia but i need to probably tailor my expectations to the different playstyles like poyser mentioned and try to find townies in another ways

dead chat / spectator / mod PoV is very biased because they have tmi lol try rereading the game now after everyone flipped. u will notice how easy it is to identify everyone's alignment cuz u already know it it wuda been fine if there has been at least 1 cross killing lol mafia didn't kill indies and indies didn't kill mafia. the night kills were all on town lol and just so happen the one time I shoot a mafia he has bulletproof I think if poyser was the unclaimed indie alive late game he wud make potato fries out of mafia lol, because he wud know how to confidently solve the game from the PoV of a player in PoE

i dont think we did bad lol we got 2 mafia lynches 2 indie lynches and 1 mislynch after u guys died and I shot a mafia at night but they lived not bad at all tbh lots of unfortunate things happened lol

yes to the first one. i have considered it no to the second. or I don't remember where. or I was scum when u were town so didn't have to work with u from town PoV

well dragon was town so im happy I buddied with him. dalton was the one I was wrong on. do u not think u alienated urself from us instead of work with us? u were the only townie that got mislynched in the late game. I'm gna work on reducing that spam (I always say I will lol). but it wasn't why we lost. our inability to identify u as town was the turning point this game. part of it is cuz I had dalton misplaced in the core, another part is u refused to work with us, or we just arent compatible to work together. and a major part is not knowing how gramma process's his actions, otherwise u wud be insta cleared and save us all this hassle

im more familiar with jailkeeper being strictly roleblock + protect. if X target Y with a jailkeerper, that's what they do. and anybody else can visit Y normally and it wouldn't fail (unless its a kill) however a forced commuter is a role that completely removes player from the game. nothing can target them. so if X force commutes Y then Y is not in the game for the night and anything targeting them fails.

its not rly a different role. in the action processing order apparently commuter is faster. for us, a jailkeeper only roleblocks and protects the target. it does not stop players from visiting the target. a forced commuter stops ALL actions. for WS seems like the roles r the same. anyway that's all setup spec. ultimately its his gameplay that we judge him based on. he was going to be last day's lynch or the one before it if evans just played townie and pushed phenom instead of claim the PoE works in magical ways poyser. u cant see it from our PoV because u have outsider spectator mod knowledge to us the last day was between evans and phenom after BLD defended himself very well he wasn't an option. the way BLD removed himself from being lynched shuda been how evans do it all we needed is evans to push for phenom. from his PoV he is 10000000000000000% sure it had to be phenom. he did push it at the end but claimed indie in the process which weakened his claim and made it seem he...

and obviously we got unlucky with doddsy being bulletproof and BLD having a hater passive and the indies killing town and pushing town anyway gg. onto the next had lots of fun with this one

i always ask for updated lists based on new development or after someone talks. idk how hard it is to list ur reads live after every 3 pages. townies just need to keep pooling their thoughts on the table. clog the foken thread with it if need be lol anyway my idea of playing town is clearly different. we will always not agree on this I guess

is it a common convention that commuters are only self target in WS? ive seen commuters being non self target alot

and not to take away anything from mafia. very solid performance and a strong team

im not gna say lethal played bad just he played in a style that I struggle forgiving and letting go I agree that not everyone needs to play the same. working out with people's different play style is a skill I need to work on still

u have much more meta knowledge on him than us, for instance, we have never seen town lethal lol. he has always been scum where we play we were able to identify say retro as town because we have seen town retro play. we struggled with lethal and we tried over multiple times to work with him things like "check my iso for my reads" and "the only thing clearing you is being vig" . and foken "yeah I am back on the table" is really not stuff I am capable of letting go easily. maybe you can. I probably will not be able to.

this is why i hate being cleared btw I struggle rly hard with being on the sideline having to judge and rely the townies in PoE to solve and town their ass off id much rather be the one in PoE and suspected. i can draw so much scum out that way

it has to be i think cuz of phenom's role. if he failed a kill he burns the target or smth

do u do that rly? i mean ur games hardly have PRs lol. i don't remember ever having to be concerned about this in a game of urs I don't think plat does it. plat does like arise using the super system where some actions bypass others, rather than it being "first and second"

picture this u r the top suspect right now. about to be lynched. we need u to solve the game today from ur PoV and u come out saying "yeah I am back on the table" what am I supposed to do with this lol

also we didnt know if BPD was rly shot or not, @Black Pegged Dragon did u know if u lost ur bulletproof or not? that might have helped clear u from being mafia as they failed a kill that night unless u and lethal r exactly the team ofc

no townie shud be mislynchable poyser. none of them. a townie shud be able to explain their reasoning throughout and box the scum out no townie is concerned about being back on the table. what even is that lol need lethal to iso phenom here and just box him out we have identified phenom as scum last phase. his teammates wud have to be in arp/dalton/retro. we wud need to check their iso more and find which one it is. BLD does not fit as teammate with doddsy we likely win this game at final 3 without the hater passive

do u remember one more?