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Is it too much to say most Marvel superheroes? Most people who watch MCU movies don't vision them as being insanely strong, mainly due to how they're portrayed in the movies. Which leads to people being befuddled at the idea of someone like Thor being able to wash Vegeta in a fight, because they're not aware of the comic feats and only know of the MCU feats. Considering MCU movies are how most people view these characters? I'd say it counts.

We had a thread about beliefs before getting into vs debating, this one's kinda similar to that. I'm talking about series that don't appear to be very strong by most people unless looked at in a vs debating context. Starting the thread off with probably the most obvious example: Star Wars. Most...