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  1. Flowering Knight

    Misconceptions about VS. Debating

    Reacting to light =/= actually being faster than light. It's why we treat the series as relativistic to lightspeed, but Kizaru's meant to be the fastest character in the series, and he's only lightspeed. If, say, Sanji were to blatantly outspeed him in a fight, then absolutely the verse would break the FTL barrier.
  2. Flowering Knight

    Misconceptions about VS. Debating

    Pretty much also the reason why FTL One Piece isn't accepted yet. Sure, we may have had the odd FTL calc in the past, and there are a good amount of feats that definitely look (and some that are) FTL... but until someone's able to actually outspeed Kizaru then none of that stuff is accepted.
  3. Flowering Knight

    Misconceptions about VS. Debating

    Popping into this thread to post something a lot of other forums tend to misunderstand (while being related to the previously mentioned hyperbole topic) is high-end feats =/= outliers. When a series gets new feats it's bound to get ones that will eventually upgrade it. Sometimes it'll have only one or two feats of that level and everything else will simply scale to them. Superman being a planetbuster makes sense since he has dozens upon dozens of feats of him being at that level, so when he gets a feat that puts him even higher, it makes sense, since he's no stranger to cosmic feats. Superman having solar system to galaxy and even universal feats makes sense since not only are there multiple feats of those levels that he scales to, but they're not that far above each other. (yeah I know there are massive dc gaps between them all that's not the point of what I'm saying lol) An outlier is something so far above the rest of the verse's feats that also never has anything even...
  4. Flowering Knight

    Misconceptions about VS. Debating

    Probably one of the bigger misconceptions I often see thrown around: Split Durability doesn't make much sense, actually. One might see a character get punched with a city level attack and think "ah, but a sword or bullet could easily cut them!" However, weapons are just multipliers of force, and while slashing and piercing attacks are usually better (as they require less effort for results), they're still ultimately relying on force and kinetic energy for results. Granted attacks with swords or guns for example can produce similar levels of force as, say, a sledgehammer, with much less effort, but again, it's still force. So that example of a dude taking a city level punch? Bullets and knives aren't doing anything to him unless said weapons have city level feats or scale to said feats.
  5. Flowering Knight

    Misconceptions about VS. Debating

    There's also a whole discussion about Lore vs Feats when it comes to this hobby which comes with its own can of worms. You got people saying that because this big feat didn't happen on screen, it didn't count and said character can't actually bust universes or whatever. On the other hand you have something implying a universal thing in lore and people immediately jump to try and bump the verse up to universal. Obviously there's a lot more to it and I'm skipping a lot of details and examples but that sort of thing is very much a recent (and large) phenomenon in vs debating, and there's a lot of misconceptions about it on both sides
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