Guess I'm trembling then Anyway, yes, at the time I wasn't too sold on the wagon. emphasis on the time. I just went along trying to see if he'd cave in to the pressure. And I mean I would say he did after a while, though not by my merit. There were already driving forces behind that wagon, I was taking more of a sideline. Regardless, it was clear as day the more he talked, and the more Ekko talked the worse he looked.