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Adolla isnt that Despair, Adolla is its own thing, the Despair is made from humanity collectively unconciously leaning that way. its what the evangelists entire plan was about, causing humanities despair and using all the other forms of negative human emotion so that adolla can breach into reality and turn the earth into a second sun. No, your post does not say that. Sho is talking about the giant eyeball being though given form. Shinra saying "this is adolla" is meant like "ah so thats what this effect is." its sort of like how King Kittan says "so this is spiral power" Despair isnt the ultimate nature of humanity as you need more than just despair in order for the great cataclysm to be fully realized, you need all the forms of negative human emotion. And this gets countered by positive human emotions like Hope and Positivity. Its why nothing Haumea did had an effect on shinra cause, thanks to arthur, he was full of Hope.

Nah its not semantics, especially if your argument is that he destroyed adolla because he destroyed humanities despair when they are two distinct things. For example, if all of humanity dies, Adolla would still exist, but there just wouldnt be anything to influence it and if adolla went humanity would still be there but adollas effects would be gone. The affect one another but dont arent explicitly tied to one another. This is also proven as, Arthur is still able to breathe and exist in space just fine despite your claim that Adolla is gone. Without Adolla none of Arthurs shenanigans work

Yeah and Humanities collective unconcious ISNT Adolla. It just Influences Adolla causing changes to the real world

The entire verse runs on this power, you have not a single bit of evidence that says otherwise, nor can you name this so called new power that they are using. Nothing you've posted has said they've used anything else and everything shown in this fight is all consistent with how Adolla works. Haumea calls it humanities collective unconcious and Despair. Not once do they ever refer to this as Adolla. He didnt get rid of Adolla, he got rid of the collective unconcious of humanities despair given form. This is the entire point and to interpret it as anything else is just confusing

This isnt like Wally out running the Speedforce, this isnt Asura beating Chakravartin. What Shinra did had no effect on Adolla itself he just used Adolla to fix everything and then gave up his and everyone elses connection to it, except for Arthur who was too far out. Also if "God" was above Adolla The Death, who Shinra calls God, shouldnt have had any trouble reaching Arthur You calling this an outlier doesnt change the fact that this shit exists

See heres the issue you dont seem to be getting paxton. Out of everything you've shown me. What exactly has Shinra done that makes him universal. Your saying he beat the dogshit out of the Evangelist, but thats not what happened. She dodged everything he did and he dodged everything she did and used her own power, which are all named after despair, to recreate the earth and bring everyoe back to life. He then made Haumea stop despairing which seperated her from the evangelist and then he put whatever was left behind to sleep. Neither of these things are universal in scope or power. The only way you can get Universal Shinrabanshoman is if you do as your doing: giving him feats he just does not have.

Which doesnt work because up until the very end, the Sun was still the Sun. Only when the fighting is all said and done and humanity returned does the Sun actually turn into the Soul Eater Sun. Adolla isnt the universes will, its a dimension linked to the unconciousness of humanity. Whatever the concensus is believed to be, is what Adolla will reflect upon the universe. The only reason the stars and mons are changed is because humanity views the stars as actual star shapped and so when Adolla comes closer to reality, that change is then forced onto reality, same thing with the moon. And again, remember how i said adolla exisiting isnt a feat? Shinra himself had nothing to do with the moon or the stars changing, all he could do was mess with the earth, other than that he did nothing.

Moving all this here because we arent gonna shit up the convo with this nonsense

Pax....Adolla is CONNECTED to humanities unconcious, its only influenced by humanities unconscious. The Evangelist was born in Adolla due to all of Humainity despairing. Again, Adolla can be influnced by Humanities unconcious and this then affects the real world but it isnt.

No, shes just from Adolla. Adolla is connected to the collective unconciousness of humanity, if she was "an avatar" then she would be affected by everyones belief

Shinra didnt "clown" on Adolla. Yeah he clowned on the Evangelist but if Adolla didnt exist, he wouldnt be able to do anything. This isnt like Wally running faster than the speedforce. Adolla is connectied to humanities subconcious, if you believe, it becomes true. Yeah ADOLLA can affect the universe, but it depends on peoples perception of what things are. This shit aint hard

Like niggas go "universal shinra" but cant name a single feat he does that puts him at that level "b-b-b-but adolla" Adolla existing isnt a feat

Nah fam, take that Garbage back to SB where it belongs. We already went and had this argument before, i aint doing it again