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Please read my posts before posting a block of text without actually addressing my argument with scans from the manga itself.

I don't believe I claimed that he literally destroyed Adolla (I may be mistaken), he just put it to "sleep", per his own words. Which is obviously later shown when Kishin (the remnant of Adolla/despair in the new world Shinra created)... well, is obviously still around in the world of Soul Eater. Besides, they're explicitly one and the same. Like, what I just posted outright says it. The ultimate nature of Adolla IS despair. That's what leads humans to desire death and bring about the Great Cataclysm in the first place.

I feel like this is just arguing semantics, no? Humanities collective unconscious controls (or is Adolla) Adolla which then causes changes to the real world/universe.

Haumea/the Evangelist specifically say that they are not a god since they do not possess this sort of power. It's very literal. It's not just them having a philosophical debate. For the second point.. "I've cast off mankind's collective unconscious" "But then... where did all that despair go.." In that very scan you posted she conflates the two as being one in the same. Literally verbatim said that Adolla = despair given form.

Ironic considering the literal stonewalling you're doing without actually posting any evidence from the manga itself. If the Evangelist is NOT Adolla, back the claim up with evidence, like I've doing this entire thread for everything I've said. I literally just posted a panel of Adolla affecting the entire universe.

I've seen this first part said many times but there's no quote to support this. Or at least, it hasn't been posted. Unlike the several times Haumea/the Evangelist specifically make a distinction between Shinra's power as a god and that of Adolla. For this second part.. come on man. We SEE a feat of Adolla affecting all the stars/moons in the night sky. We are then ALSO told that it changed the very laws of physics in "this world", which resulted in said change. How do you come to the conclusion that world in this context is referring to just the planet?

Literally already addressed this with an actual panel from the manga. "The Evangelist is the entire collective unconscious given form" Right there on the page. "Shinrabanshoman was using Adolla" Wrong, the Evangelist says the exact opposite. Shinrabanshoman's powers have nothing to do with Adolla. I already posted the evidence on the previous page to support this. "and her own power" The Evangelist and Adolla are one in the same. They're the same power. The panel is right there.

Shinrabanshoman doesn't use the power of Adolla, and nor does Lord Death. That's the whole point of what I've just posted: it's entirely a separate and superior power. How do you propose Shinrabanshoman put the remnants of Adolla asleep without being stronger than Adolla?

Could you post the quotes/panels? Or just the respective chapters, that's fine.

Sorry, am I reading this correctly? "Shinrabanshoman put the remains of Adolla to sleep using Adolla's power and then had Lord Death use Adolla to take away his power over Adolla?" Because I swear that's what it sounds like you're saying.

I don't see what that disproves? Adolla demonstrably has universal reach/effect, we both agree on that. Adolla being the universe's will is just a fancy way of saying "the universe changes according to humanity's perception/collective unconscious". I don't see how that goes against any of my points. Shinrabanshoman doesn't need to have done the changes himself. The Evangelist, again, outright confirms his superiority to her. The power of god is, again, pretty blatantly superior to the power of Adolla. Which is shown in the fight by Shinrabanshoman beating the dogshit out of her after achieving this new power via Soul Resonance.

I'm going to make this first part simple: as you claimed before, Shinrabanshoman is not stronger then Adolla/Evangelist, he merely weakened her beforehand by making people not despair or w/e. Post the panels where this is stated to be the case. Or any panels where the Evangelist is actually portrayed as comparable to Shinrabanshoman. Both would be preferable. Because this panel of Shinrabanshoman literally no selling her attack doesn't support that idea. For this second part.. I've literally mentioned all this and posted the evidence in question. The panel I just posted of Giovanni outright says the moons and the stars were affected, along with the very laws of physics themselves. On top of the fact that Adolla is REPEATEDLY described as the universe's will. Wtf other interpretation is there besides "Adolla can affect the entire universe" Genuinely how is this in contention?

Are you asking me for other instances of the universe as a whole being affected during the events of Fire Force, or..?

And to back up what I said about the power of a god being above Adolla, if it wasn't already clear enough... Shinrabanshoman never needed to weaken the Evangelist. He's just stronger than her and Adolla, period. I have no idea what chapter that's even from.

Dude. Giovanni is literally explaining the reach of Adolla, which is why the stars and moons are like this in the first place. From the last Great Cataclysm. It's literally proven on the page itself because we can straight up SEE those stars and moons not be, you know, normal stars and moons. Which.. I already said before.

And I already addressed this as well. It's an outlier that's inconsistent with the several other instances of Adolla affecting the universe, which even MB had agreed with me on. Lack of demonstrated range = Shinrabanshoman and Lord Death are somehow weaker than the thing they're explicitly stronger than. Not buying it.

There's no way you're saying this. I literally JUST posted a quote that says that Adolla and the Evangelist are the same thing. The power of a god is above that of Adolla, as admitted by the Evangelist (which is Adolla) themselves. It's so fucking explicit that I'm confused as to how there's even an issue, unless you read a different version of Fire Force??

They're the same thing.

Haumea fuses with the Evangelist, I know. I don't get what you're referring to. And Shinrabanshoman beat her because the power of a god is blatantly above Adolla/humanities collective unconscious, which the Evangelist outright says herself. It's not complicated.

"The Evangelist is the entire collective unconscious given form" She is literally Adolla. As explicit as it gets.