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It’s all good Ekko. Rankings has done this to us all in the past. We’ve learned to deal with it better now :hestonpls

It didn’t because BPD was never up for lynch thay phase because CP outed himself. The mistake was lynching the SK over mafia but it’s not like the deductions that led them there were wrong. He knew you were SK and he knew CP was mafia and he scum read BPD before phenom vouched for him. Ofc with phenom hinting at lovers it makes BPD way too risky to lynch there

How did he fool gram? Gram’s assumption based on the lethal shit was 100% correct lol also ultra got lynched because GRAM alongside Flower correctly deduced what happened with the frame and execute and had no interest in lynching him. Gram played a great game and made a mistake at the end, you’re just salty because it led to you being lynched lol

I mean you’re arguing for a guy to get a HM who’s game basically consisted of him not getting lynched for the sole reason that his play would be too fucking stupid for a scum to do :bosque1: Lethal had no intention or strategy in his play lol he just threw shit out to try and survive. gram was the best player in the game because his reads were almost perfect except one. He made a slight misplay at the end but who played better than him? He was basically playing the game by himself half the time

You know he’s doing well when scum are fuming about the fact they can’t get rid of him in their chat and saying him as stump is too OP/swingy

He was the best player in the game lol

no lol, she's not been a wrestler for about 8 years :hestonpls

What I also realised is trying to alter a setup you'd originally written for 16 players up to 23 is pretty hard lmao. I probably should have just made the survivor another VT

tbh ive legit never seen a redirector variant that cant be used on kills. if i had then i probably would have adopted it myself before now. i dont tend to use redirectors very often in general tbh as they are a bit lame in general. i just thought scum were on the whole fairly weak when it came to night actions, and I wanted their one power role to actually be powerful

yeah tbh when CP pointed out in the chat they could redirect and get another kill then win the following day phase it was a bit of a sinking feeling lol

also, goth boy protecting himself that last day phase would have actually made the most sense considering he was the most powerful role left ofc, the lad clearly wasnt paying attention to anything lol

Ill take that on board tho. I dont hate redirectors not being able to effect kills. I just like the idea of punishing claiming as well. Theyre only powerful if they know who to target

Also if Rug had shot on either N1 or N2, he'd have been out of shots by the time they realised who he was and wouldnt have been able to hijack his kill its like I said lol, pretty much everything that could go wrong for town did here

Not really, scum assumed that the SK had killed doddsy lol. If theres 3 kills then they know there is a vig, but I dont at all think they necessarily assume the daykiller is the vig. I think most scum teams would assume it was someone else that hadnt claimed yet

i especially dont think theres a need for a mass claim when you basically know who you're gonna lynch anyway

Like tbh I dont really hate roles that punish mass claims. As much as we use them as a crutch in our standard, thats also a pretty lame way to try and solve the game

^ which specifically was because of the redirector kek

I dont think Ive ever seen a redirector that is prohibited from targeting a kill lol? What games have you used that in? Not something I actually thought about at all, but dont hate that variant now you've said it that one JOAT they had was really powerful, but like i said it was handicapped as it contained all their useful night roles and restricted to one usage per night and obv if that guy dies theyve got basically nothing. obviously their roles became infinitely easier to use well when the entire town is outed. i even gave rugrat a daykill so he didnt even have to claim vig at all if he didnt want to

mafia chat is worth reading just for CPs posts to psychic imo :hestonpls

yeah the reps issue was a bit of a problem this game lol, might be worth capping games at 20 for the moment and running with a rep or two on the list