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I was pushing you to get a read on you - I actually thought you and Gram could be Masons but I had some reservations with Gram and couldn't fully commit to town clearing you after day 2, though leaned town. I'm assuming you're conceding the whole spitd thing and if so I hope this is the last discussion on it, it's beneath you frankly.

Anyway good win in the end, nice to see a one-sided town game for once on this site. I think the active townies being able to make themselves more easily town read than usual helped too, the big part really was reconciling the differences between reads but once we got there or at least got to the point where it wasn't direct town vs town conflict the game became pretty easy. Day 4 was big because with mafia down to 1 it meant solving the Indie became very important, and then the indie solved himself which meant that the Mafia lost their last distraction. Thought Dalton played well honestly.

I feel like I deserve a HM at the very least and CP probably does too. Not sure about Indie T Pein being MVP as he only truly affected Days 3 and 4 but probably deserves a HM as well.

Yeah what's the need for the spite though? It adds absolutely nothing. My defence made sense - it's not really fair to hold a player to the standard of any no lynch is their fault entirely and if they're not burying scum day 1 they're locked scum. But yeah it's annoying Flower because I can see your reasoning isn't fully genuine which should come only from scum but then I have to factor in spite over... me playing to my wincon in other games too.

I'm dead my man, my vote died with me

How many votes left are needed?

My only reservation I guess is that Ultra doesn't usually tell scum if they've lost their Iron. I suppose it could just be a fake claim by sticking close to what he actually has to be safe?

Yup yup, we're on the same page Also I think my role was all status effects too which probably was intended to be a false positive against the poison so I am vindicated in not using it

I quoted the above because it evidences more vote power for the Mafia and the ascetic doesn't stop kills as expected, so scum having an Iron member can work

Yeah I think just lynch Gorgonzola here to win

[Dremora Warrior] (x1 Remote Vote) The Warrior will appear during the day and can be commanded to cast a single, fixed vote [Dremora Mage] (x1 Ascetic) The Mage casts Flame Cloak, making the user [Ascetic], all abilities (besides kills) will fail that night [Dremora Archer] (x1 Alert) The Archer will make the user [Alert], informing you of who has visited you the night they are summoned

I don't think iron scum has flipped yet has it?

Alright info pls

No because my character played no part in Dragonborn. It's a relatively minor dlc questline

What are you doing

Alright I don't really believe the claim to be honest, and the defence of it is mostly sophistry.

Go on (I'm catching up if you already elaborated)

Patience, hasty one.

Not really sure they need a protection ability - 5 Mafia with 20 players with 2-shot loved is already a lot

2 executes = 2 lynches the town has less control over. Very unlikely, and unlikelier still they use it now rather than in F4/F3.