Again, it's still literally irrelevant. For fuck's sake, Kingprotea if left to grow, could reach Universal Sizes but that still doesn't make her Universal either on DC or durability The notion that Ashtart is the literal Universe doesn't help his argument in the slightest since she got offed by something less than that and she herself also couldn't just replicate . Being a Space Battler, Shiny Balls doesn't realize that being that size or having that scale doesn't make you Universal. Like, the fact that he used the Arc example where even the most wanked thing you could say about it is that she has Universal scale, even though the actual scale of her feats affect is far lower, tells you everything you need to know. I'd expect this shit from VSB, not from someone on SB where Servants are persian carpet lvls :giogio