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Which is fortunate since my accusation isn't false. I've even proven it. We've already been through this. Canon feats ? How do you interpret a character dispersing clouds at crazy speeds without calcs ? You don't. Even if you could eyeball it , writing it down and doing the math would only help with the accuracy. Correct about what ? If that's the example you're using, you have a fundamental fucked up understanding of how calculations work. I'd suggest doing the bare minimum research before developing an entire stance on the thing. So if you know that i don't , why did you brought it up in the first place ? Yeah, but all of this is not the fault of calculations. It's the fault of people misunderstanding the context of shit. If someone uses bad context and set up for a calc, it gets thrown out instantly . And stop using fucking strawmen. You either can't read or you're purposefully trying to misconstrue what i'm saying, which is expected from a SB-er but try to spare me...

Repeating something enough times won't make it true. Sad fact of life. What others ? I'm not saying things that have nothing to do with what we're actually discussing. You are. But i'm not cause i didn't say it. So, canonicity or lack thereof if the thing that bothers you. Well, let me just erase your worries since calcs are based on canonical shit that happens in the story. Nice discussion. Sure. No, calcs is a the tool that allows us to better quantify the feats of characters in the story. It actually complements the scaling. And again, the calcs are based on canon shit . So , there's literally no issue. Your original post didn't contain anything that could even imply that. Your second did, however. Yes, but now we have different conditionals. Ok. Nobody cares . That's what consensus is for. However , allow me to creat and speculate on the following scenario : Someone does e calc. The calc is then subjected to the necessary processes and is deemed proven . All...

Yes , it is. You can't dismiss the thing you're against on the basis it's fan theory and be ok with anything else when it's still fan theory . That's one form of hypocrisy which is not applicable here. It's a fan hobby based on discussing who's fictional daddy has a bigger dick . It's fan theory . Don't turn this into a semantic game. Yes, fan theory based on who a fictional character is as opposed to fan theory on what a character can do in a fight. Massive difference. It's not like you can have sub categories or anything. Don't move the goalposts . Or don't create new goalposts. You didn't say this originally . You never said this. You're only saying it now cause i pointed it up. Not if you want to be taken seriously. And as i've said. Maybe they don't do any of those things which wouldn't be good for your supposition now , wouldn't it ? No, if Gil actually performs a feat that is him either destroying a Galaxy or having a feat producing the required yield to...

Well... let's see ... maybe it's the fact that You're choosing to single out calcs as being fan theory when this entire hobby is actual fan theory cause we're discussing fiction . The only thing calcs do is help us quantify shit which in turn help us connect dots, scale, etc. It's just a tool . Nothing more. Sure, some people do only concentrate on that but .. sometimes, it's all they need. If they ignore context or other shit, it's their fault , not the calcs's fault for existing. That covers the hypocritical part. The stupid part is covered by your stance is also based on the supposition that calcs are wrong because people can be wrong, not that hey can actually be right or relative more right about what is being discussed. Places who take calcs seriously , like this one, have processes set in place so that not every calc that is shat out is immediately agreed upon by the people who can't help but clap like seals. If anything, the ratio between immediately accepted calcs and...