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You expressed several concerned about how heated these discussions were getting, and I appreciate the sentiment really. Just ftr my assumption is that our level of shit flinging is something we're both comfortable with. In the common vernacular of those backwater savages we call Brits it's "just anover chewsday" for us :maybe. But yes, I'll try to get along better next time!

No need to apologize lol. The worst outcome really just up clogging the thread. If I could beat describe why I reacted that way, it would be because in my initial impression I arrived at not only you being town but I must have peeked a glimpse into the future or something because I knew this would be one of those games, wasn't in the greatest mood either I admit. But in a short span of time I fast forwarded to "hm ok Poyser didn't like my initial reaction for surfacy tells but ultimately wrong reasons, unfortunately he's not going to back down, I'm a bit ticked but just going to offer to ignore him while I pursue other leads" and that threw you for even more of a loop. I can see the other side of the coin pretty well, I just think you sounded more confident than you were and hence the "dishonest" part. Basically I was trying to call your bluff with how bullishly you were reading me in a way that put my cards on the table but it put you further into a tunnel, then about two days in...

Bruh

I posted more in this game than anytime in recent memory, think I'm gonna Dodd post this one

Agreed

You cant just pitch the negotiation process into the dirt because *I should have done so earlier* though, that's the problem. I even told you I felt dirty about that vote, but I found it very hard to reconcile your reaction when all I did was give the notion of interest at someone else's reasoning. I mean, you and Poyser were both suspects of mine, so the conclusion you jumped to that I was being malicious and not just collecting info was wrong. I had you in my PoE since Night 1, but didn't budge on it, and you know that's not because I wouldn't push a lynch on you if I wanted to.

I don't mean to hurt your feelings. I mean, I'll be perfectly honest, you're a better player overall, but we all have good and bad games and I don't think that statement (again, you are not the subject in the discussion this was used in) was wrong at the time. Don't take it personal

If a game is too much for me to handle (never happened), I sub out. AtE, however, is an element of the game, and one I've employed as scum, so no promises, but I usually don't do it anyway

I was comparing that scenario to the one where I had to clear CP. Uh, yeah.

Yes Ratchet. I had no interest in seeing your perspective when I talked with you until you said, and I quote, "this is pointless". Games like these have a lot of information, consider not taking offense *preemptively* that I merely considered you as scum. I tried hearing you out, you declined.

Yes! And I said this in the context of a world where I'm scum in which I am lining up my lylo. Way way way sensitive.

This is fucking bullshit, as if I'm supposed to *know* you're town, magically. I specifically went out of my way to give you more consideration and you declined, ironically, because your ego won't allow you to explain your perspective without taking offense at my confusion and presuming I'm being a dick

You're seeing this as a boast, holy shit. It was literally a conditional hypothetical about being scum. Jfc you're sensitive.

Sorry Ratchet but you breached the opportunity to shake hands twice. You can argue I'm daft, or lazy, or whatever. but I wasn't trying to be inconsiderate. Multiple invitations and you declined. This is verifiable.

The crazy thing is I was working up to a town read - you flipped your shit at me and came out with some jarring defensiveness which I suspect is a product of some priors you had on m, and I was taken aback sincerely because I was trying to give you a fair shake.

...is this supposed to prove your point? I ran into the same obstacle. I got no sold

I made an attempt at squashing it early in the game, and got accused as scum for it, lol

Multiple times in the game - I made an effort to hear you out - you claimed there was no point =\

I said you would do worse, not because of a lack of ability, but because you would forfeit far quicker. Don't think that's inaccurate. Also, I was talking about a hypothetical scenario in which I was scum? You're being sensitive, and you berate me constantly during games, so kindly drop the claim about toxicity.

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