Archangel Gabriel (Toaru) vs Yhwach (Bleach)

[Astaro]

Who takes it? Battle takes place at a Waffle House

Yhwach with his Soul King Powers + any anime and manga feats and scaling.

WWIII Arc Gabriel

 

[Darth Zion]

WWIII Arc Gabriel

Gabriel would have a way to permanently put down Yhwach if it were her True Form since she would have control over space and time alongside existing outside fate and history.

It's hard to argue for WW3 Gabriel being acausal, that being said- this just means Yhwach becomes a permanent punching bag since Almighty can keep on reviving him. It does not give Yhwach any chance of actually taking this.

 

[Cryso Agori]

Yhwach's revival mechanic only works on the basis that there's a universe where he can survive.

In no universe is he gonna survive a star hitting him at ftl speeds, which WW3 Gabriel can do.

 

[Darth Zion]

Yhwach's revival mechanic only works on the basis that there's a universe where he can survive.

Wait, weren't people arguing that Yhwach can actually change the future using Almighty rather than simply shifting one grain of sand to another with grains of sand being his metaphor speak for an alternate future.

 

[Cryso Agori]

Wait, weren't people arguing that Yhwach can actually change the future using Almighty rather than simply shifting one grain of sand to another with grains of sand being his metaphor speak for an alternate future.

Uh. Those people are lying.

Yhwach's entire whole sand explanation is an explanation of how the Almighty works. He sees futures as grains of sands, and if he sees a future with a favorable outcome, choose that future.

He cannot actually change the future, only choose outcomes from the finite amount of futures he sees.

 

[Darth Zion]

Those people are lying.

They use Yhwach using Almighty to change Ichibei turning him into an ant as evidence for this- an event that had already happened.

What about that?

 

[Astaro]

Main point of this thread is how Yhwach’s Almighty will interact with Gabriel’s power to mess with information the brain receives

Snow and dirt flew everywhere, but the two were unharmed.

“What is that? I can’t see it at all…”

“The Power of God is a messenger angel. She must be good at manipulating information. She must be obscuring our sixth senses of premonition and intuition. It seems like we can only rely on our 5 normal senses for this fight…”

“hbwioraATTACKnbsitbgEFFECTIVEorargwerge.”

“That’s no good, it seems like she’s got a loose tongue now.”

 

[Cryso Agori]

They use Yhwach using Almighty to change Ichibei turning him into an ant as evidence for this- an event that had already happened.

What about that?

@Xhominid The Apex would know more, but apparently the anime said that Ichibei's black doesn't actually erase or overwrite names, it covers them up, and can be broken with pure power.

Yhwach didn't break Ichibei's black with Almighty, but with his reiatsu.