Speaking of which, is there any Magus though that's akin to Mad Scientist type that's willing to research other brand of Magic?
I thought Tailed Beast Bombs were basically just huge masses of chakra?Meliodas vs Naruto
How can you compare hyperbole to a direct statement? Gowther has given us the measurements and it's explicit because Diane and King need to get out of the range of the explosion. He has no need to lie unless he wants to kill them which obviously is nonsensical.forums.spacebattles.com
Jesus fuck, this thread is one of the main reasons why I cannot see anyone taking SB seriously...
Like I cannot fathom how you have people who can't just pick a single point and stick to it in terms of their actual standing.
So it's okay to use the Anime in this context but it isn't for other series? And when and how does Naruto ever stack to the Ten Tails? He never does a single goddamned time so I'm not sure what the point of this even is.
The fuck does Chaos have to do with any version of Meliodas?! And how is that explosion is supposed to be any different than what we see in Naruto? Because who it scales to? That's not how that works alone or with scaling from others.
That's not atomizing, he just blew it up and left a huge ass crater in the ground. Vaporizing, sure but atomizing is a big fat no.
And that wouldn't really scale with Naruto after gaining the Kyubi Cloak who can do far worse damage(Hell, it may not even stack with Sage Naruto considering the fact he can deal with Pain who can flatten an entire village with one move).
Jesus fucking Christ, Meliodas is NOT going to be able to Full Counter a goddamned Bijuudama! Do people forget Meliodas can only FC Magic right? We aren't going to pretend that Rule 13 allows it to be all energy based attacks. And there we go with the "Too Slow/Too Much Charge Time and can dodge" nonsense again...
I thought Tailed Beast Bombs were basically just huge masses of chakra?
Unless they also have senjutsu/nature energy infused into them, I wouldn't remember.
Sasuke can destroy a mountain by hitting it. In The Last, he even completely destroyed a meteor falling onto Konoha easily. In his Susanno, he tore through meteors which even chunks of dwarfed mountains. Naruto and Sasuke are depicted as equals or near equals. Nothing you say will change that. Saying otherwise means you never got the idea of their rivalry.
False equivalence. The attack Guy used isn't a focused slash, beam or anything such, it's literally a pillar of compressed air being used to deal out physical damage. And it DOES cause plenty of environmental damage, literally burying someone several hundred meters under the ground.
But that's not a country level attack. Your argument was that Naruto can tank a punch carrying gigatons of TnT worth of energy behind it. Own up to that
You keep using that word, but I'm pretty sure you don't know what it means.
We are talking about two orders of magnitude of power difference here. Meliodas comes, armed with a sharp, bladed weapon, strikes the person in question full force and is literally unable to break their skin as a result.
Later on he proceeds to punch someone with a higher power level, effectively turning most of their body into mush as result. Splattering someone like Fraudrin with blunt force require massively greater strength than cutting through them, not only due to him being more durable than aforementioned people whose skin can't be breached by mountain-bisecting attacks, but due to surface area disparity between Mel's fist and a sword.
This is some extremely basic physics at work here.
HP wank on SB is utterly inane. Just to list a few examples of the wank I've seen over there...Oh boy, more Harry Potter wank and pretending Nasuverse Mages aren't monsters in terms of physical abilities, magecraft and otherwise or how ridiculously powerful the overall shields and shit are in the Clock Tower.
"B-But Servants was able to wreck it" yes... SERVANTS with the help of Zouken Matou(Zolgen Makiri back then), one of the people who created the damn place!
Ain't no goddamned HP Wizards going to be able to wreck it.
..I thought Dementors were intangible?HP wank on SB is utterly inane. Just to list a few examples of the wank I've seen over there...
- Avarda Kerdabra is conceptual
- Avarda Kerdabra steals souls
- Avarda Kerdabra can kill planets by pointing at the ground and saying Avarda Kerdabra
- Avarda Kerdabra can kill omnipresents by pointing anywhere and saying Avarda Kerdabra
- Avarda Kerdabra can kill anyone and anything, including all-powerful cosmic characters
- Harry Potter wizards would be one of the best ways for composite wizards to deal with the Time Lords
- Dementors are invincible
- Dementors are intangible
- Fiendfyre can destroy a planets surface
- Individual Wizards wards are all as powerful as the one that protected Hogwarts
- The shield that protected Hogwarts can instantly and continously disintegrate kaiju with kiloton level durability, and hold back a full strength Flood invasion
- Transfiguration spells are literally instant
- Harry Potter has direct help from an omnipotent
- Voldemort has planetary mindfuck
- Voldemort has continental reality warping
- Avarda Kerdabra is light speed so Harry Potter wizards have relativistic/lightspeed/FTL reactions
- Fire protection charms can stop Gridfire
HP wank on SB is utterly inane. Just to list a few examples of the wank I've seen over there...
- Avarda Kerdabra is conceptual
- Avarda Kerdabra steals souls
- Avarda Kerdabra can kill planets by pointing at the ground and saying Avarda Kerdabra
- Avarda Kerdabra can kill omnipresents by pointing anywhere and saying Avarda Kerdabra
- Avarda Kerdabra can kill anyone and anything, including all-powerful cosmic characters
- Harry Potter wizards would be one of the best ways for composite wizards to deal with the Time Lords
- Dementors are invincible
- Dementors are intangible
- Fiendfyre can destroy a planets surface
- Individual Wizards wards are all as powerful as the one that protected Hogwarts
- The shield that protected Hogwarts can instantly and continously disintegrate kaiju with kiloton level durability, and hold back a full strength Flood invasion
- Transfiguration spells are literally instant
- Harry Potter has direct help from an omnipotent
- Voldemort has planetary mindfuck
- Voldemort has continental reality warping
- Avarda Kerdabra is light speed so Harry Potter wizards have relativistic/lightspeed/FTL reactions
- Fire protection charms can stop Gridfire
..I thought Dementors were intangible?
I don't think it's ever said that they're intangible directly. They needed to open doors to get into places, and in the movie versions (which SB in particular uses to wank them) was stopped by a grate in the 5th movie...I thought Dementors were intangible?
If you mean in the 4th book, then I'm pretty sure that summoning his broom against the dragon is going to be nowhere near light speed. You'd be lucky to get hypersonic even. Yeah it's a feat, but you've got to put it through the same hurdles as everything else.While I haven't seen some of those, I absolutely know they wank the fuck out of Dementors and especially Fiendfyre even now. And yeah, they do try and hang on the fact that Spells are somehow FTL because of one random spell caused a Broom to fly towards them from across the school means FTL for all the spells... or Voldemort's Hocrux means that he can never die and can easily regain a body in seconds... when that's not how it worked in canon at all(Voldemort was explicitly out and done in multiple ways and needed to either be a parasite or a truly misshapen and helpless baby and needing a ritual to even become an adult again.
The AK stuff, I believe, they even pretend it's as strong as a Primordial Death Rune from the Nasuverse which is absolutely hilarious.
I don't think there's any single strongest wizard, but to throw some names out there, Dr Strange, Dr Fate, Battler, Divayth Fyr, Sotha Sil, Shalidor, Albino, Merlin of Amber, Dworkin of Amber, Merlyn of the Prism and uh...that's all I can think of right now but I don't doubt there are more.Who would be the strongest wizard in a composite wizard anyway?
Not sure if Umineko characters would count.
If you mean in the 4th book, then I'm pretty sure that summoning his broom against the dragon is going to be nowhere near light speed. You'd be lucky to get hypersonic even. Yeah it's a feat, but you've got to put it through the same hurdles as everything else.
Ironically, I've seen these same people say that TES being FTL for calling down magic from the Sun is a bunch of wank when there's a fuckton more evidence to support that. This would 100% not be accepted for TES (or Nasu, or SW, or even DnD).
The sun/stars in TES were from when Magnus and the Et'Ada dipped from Nirn right?I don't think it's ever said that they're intangible directly. They needed to open doors to get into places, and in the movie versions (which SB in particular uses to wank them) was stopped by a grate in the 5th movie.
If you mean in the 4th book, then I'm pretty sure that summoning his broom against the dragon is going to be nowhere near light speed. You'd be lucky to get hypersonic even. Yeah it's a feat, but you've got to put it through the same hurdles as everything else.
Ironically, I've seen these same people say that TES being FTL for calling down magic from the Sun is a bunch of wank when there's a fuckton more evidence to support that. This would 100% not be accepted for TES (or Nasu, or SW, or even DnD).
I'd also have to post pages upon pages to back up evidence of a feat which happened onscreen, which they'd ignore and claim had nothing to do with power "because magic" or pretend that they never happened (or even make up/alter WoG statements to match their argument). Meanwhile HP and Exalted get off scot-free with all sorts of NLF bullshit.Of course, it's just funny they pretend that it's somehow an FTL feat when it is impressive... but it's not that impressive by any stretch.
More impressive, for sure, though at the very least it's be the same given how the structure the tears are in is just perceived as a sphere due to the squishy finite mortal mind not being able to comprehend space.The sun/stars in TES were from when Magnus and the Et'Ada dipped from Nirn right?
Like they're basically just holes in reality iirc.
Would that be less or more impressive?
Knowing TES, it's probably the latter.
I'd also have to post pages upon pages to back up evidence of a feat which happened onscreen, which they'd ignore and claim had nothing to do with power "because magic" or pretend that they never happened (or even make up/alter WoG statements to match their argument). Meanwhile HP and Exalted get off scot-free with all sorts of NLF bullshit.
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