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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

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So Stephen's actually megaversal or w/e?
As far as I'm aware of he is

Wait why'd you bring up Philemon/Nyarly? I thought they were fodder in SMT. Unless that Persona wank on vsbattles is true...
I brought them up because people talk about how strong they are yet neither of them fuckers has gotten close to level Stephen is chilling at in his fucking chair. and all he did was achieve enlightenment like the buddha to get this strong


Oh my goodness. I'm seeing someone try to argue that the Balance is better than Love Train
The Balance lets you get hurt, Love Train just goes Nah. Sb needs to stop the nonsense
 
Well there is the whole thing about them being "direct manifestations of the Collective Unconscious/Great Reason" though I'm pretty sure they're two separate things...? Because I think they use similar descriptions unless the former in Persona is just a weaker aspect of the "true" Collective Unconscious aka the Great Reason?

Idk, vsbattles got me fucked up with their reasoning
 
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Doesnt the Balance need the shield for some loophole to exploit?
The shield absorbs the damage that Haschwalth takes and then bounces it back at the opponent with a multiplier so they take even more damage than he did.

The issue there being that he has to take (and obviously survive) an attack to begin with.
 
The shield absorbs the damage that Haschwalth takes and then bounces it back at the opponent with a multiplier so they take even more damage than he did.

The issue there being that he has to take (and obviously survive) an attack to begin with.
Yeah it’s pretty useless without the shield as he still takes half of whatever misfortune
 

 
They can be direct manifestations but Stephen was making multi-dimensional portals as a human in the 90s. they ain't got shit on this man.

The shield absorbs the damage that Haschwalth takes and then bounces it back at the opponent with a multiplier so they take even more damage than he did.

The issue there being that he has to take (and obviously survive) an attack to begin with.
Yeah it’s pretty useless without the shield as he still takes half of whatever misfortune
"My balance will protect me from any attack you have!"
"Hungry Space goes brrr
 
Vecna's unbelievably fucked, holy shit
 


Ah, good old vsbattles.
 
Yeah strangely enough, the ability called The Balance is actually pretty balanced all things considered.

Basically. Alot of Sternritter abilities are more balanced than people give them credit for but then, you have people take that shit for a ride and then some.


Again, SB has no right to talk to be frank.
Atleast VSB actually does their research so their wank actually has some basis even if they take it too far. SB legit banned anyone using outside research not because they can do better research, but explicitly because they CAN'T and they didn't want to be constantly raw-dogged over people bringing in better calcs on them.

You can literally see the difference when it comes to how they do the Bennu feat in Shinjuku in FGO vs. how ChaosTheory did it here and see how absolutely terrible their calcs are.
 
Honestly, Deathdealing is tied with the Visionary for me imo. Most of the other Sternritter abilities are otherwise pretty balanced.
And well, that user in particular (ovy7) seems alright, I get what you're saying though.
 

@Masterblack06 Is there even any that can get shot to death?
 

Potentially... but again, Pokemon have fought in Wars so yeah, it's a real question on yeah, it's possible but...
 


How the hell does that even work?
 
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