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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

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"lava is enough to mess up Servants"
 


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Eren gets his shit pushed in. Dragons can cast spells, Common Adult Red Dragons can use Control Winds, Elemental Bane, Far Step, Greater Invisibility and Synaptic Static. Common Ancient Red Dragons can use Crown of Stars, Elemental Bane, Etherealness, Finger of Death, Power Word Pain, and Whirlwind, also potentially level 9 spells like Power Word Kill or Wish.
 

"lava is enough to mess up Servants"

Raikou, Kiyohime and Hassan of Serenity literally jump into lava and they aren't even hurt by it despite Ibaraki tricking them into jumping believing they would die from it:


But I know WHY they say that... it's because of them not realizing what a simile is due to Surtr:
Here, Mash's Ortinax can't handle his flames as Da Vinci notes it's like being submerged in lava and she would be long dead if it wasn't for the Magical Energy laced in the Ice and Snow(Da Vinci DOES note the Ortinax is meant for Extreme heat in the NATURAL World meaning it's just a metaphor and Surtr's flames are far hotter than being in deep lava.

Do you see why I call the people in Spacebattles retarded?
This is especially obvious when Holmes later states Surtr's flames are close to the level of a Star at the end of the day.

Here, Holmes states that while Surtr's flames aren't on par with a Star, but he's quite close to it without using his Noble Phantasm nor it's True Name Release(Which fits closer to the actual temperature Surtr can do).

Because it's only then just like when everyone had to clear out of Quetzalcoatl's Piedra Del Sol or they would be wiped out because she was throwing around temperatures on the level of the Sun.
 

Oh look, it's the typical Star Wars downplay on SB.
 
>Archetype Earth caps at planetary
>Shiki isn't even Servant tier

:mjlol

Honestly Void Shiki is a bit of a mess and I fundamentally can't blame people for it.
On one hand, Kinoko Nasu stated she's the strongest being in the Nasuverse due to being so close to the Root which is basically like the Universal Records for the entire Multiverse, I suppose... but on the other, that version of herself had to hide within Shiki to not be made an enemy of the Counter Force, is stated to only be able to fight Servants defensively and sees fighting a Beast of Alaya(like Fou/Primate Murder) beyond her capabilities and didn't even show up against Goetia(Shiki Ryougi did though).

You end up with people trying to headcanon it away by stating FGO Void Shiki isn't trying and holding back her power... but we know that's false as Asagami Fujino is heavily implied to have become a Servant due to Void Shiki amongst her displaying other abilities.

Archetype Earth being only Planetary is absolutely retarded though and only a dumbass would believe otherwise.
 
Eren gets his shit pushed in. Dragons can cast spells, Common Adult Red Dragons can use Control Winds, Elemental Bane, Far Step, Greater Invisibility and Synaptic Static. Common Ancient Red Dragons can use Crown of Stars, Elemental Bane, Etherealness, Finger of Death, Power Word Pain, and Whirlwind, also potentially level 9 spells like Power Word Kill or Wish.
So how do Power Word spells work in lore anyway?

You just speak and there's no "save" essentially?
 

Ain't this the truth.


And of course Dumbass91 comes in to say some stupid shit.
 
Like if anything, the Void Shiki wank is more hilarious than the Archetype Earth wank because it's implied she CAN do those things... just not immediately or instantaneously:

Comptiq 2005-09 issue - Fate Dojo Q & A:
Q. In the other Type-Moon works, who else besides Arc can fight against Servants?
A: If we're working on the condition of one on one, with an extremely average Noble Phantasm. Generally most of the 27 Ancestors, Kishima Kouma, Aozaki Aoko.
If it's just a defensive fight, but would still be a fight, then Ciel. Shiki (Rakkyo), Shiki (Tsukihime) are no match for Servants....but Ryougi Shiki (3rd personality) might be able to go as far as the Ciel class.

For example, none of this is false because it's been a known thing that DAAs = Servants, Kishima Kouma is basically a Demon Human Hybrid and they basically tell Human Laws and Reality to fuck off(See why Kuzuki, Soujuro and Kojiro are so strong) and Aoko has "Blue"(though she would still lose to Medea lol).
Even with Ciel's buffs, she would be too slow to deal with Servants head on(which is why Prime Kotomine can defeat her) and it was long stated both Shikis are too slow to deal with Servants. So Void Shiki can only fight defensively... AND

Comptiq 2007-05 issue - Fate Dojo Q & A:
Q: Who's the top three strongest characters?
A: Magical Amber, Neco Arc, and Tiger. Well, not really.
Seriously, it's Arcueid, "Ryougi Shiki", and primordial demons.(Not counting Servants)

He means the 3rd Personality for Void Shiki... but notice how Nasu DIDN'T include Servants in that listing? Only aiming for currently "living" characters and beings?
It shows he didn't really contradict himself as this is just in terms of power and nothing else and these was done before FGO came out which went with the "Void Shiki would be killed by a Beast of Alaya" deal said by her own words.
 

Ain't this the truth.


And of course Dumbass91 comes in to say some stupid shit.

I still find it hilarious how these are the same people who go apeshit and say that KMC2 Naruto can defeat Quetzalcoatl because "Bijuudama" but then also go around and act like every other Naruto character is slow as shit and Kunai make no sense.

I mean it's not like Ninja aren't superhuman and can throw shit with such force, it can still hurt people right?
 


>Touma is far from the most athletic person there is

My nigga he has blatant superhuman feats nearly every volume.
 
So how do Power Word spells work in lore anyway?

You just speak and there's no "save" essentially?
Power Word: Pain, mechanic wise it works if your current hit points are 100 or below. Your Constitution measures how much HP, stamina and vital force you have, which also helps resist poison or intoxication, holding your breath, marching or labouring for hours without rest, going without sleep, and surviving without food or water. Power Word: Kill requires no save.

Lore-wise, in the older editions, the power word spells were part of the entire "true name", and you're tapping into that by using those spells.
 

"Tiamat cannot accomplish anything of note in 4E or 5E"

..what?

I thought the only reason was because she's trapped on the first layer of the Nine Hells, and op fiat already handwaves that away anyway.
 

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im curious what speed they even think jojo characters do operate at? Because they haven't actually said that yet. Just that every speed feat is invalid by either ignoring specific statements or clinging to ones that are at odds with others. I'm surprised I haven't seen them bring up "Josuke said Crazy Diamond is 300kmh" yet
 

"Tiamat cannot accomplish anything of note in 4E or 5E"

..what?

I thought the only reason was because she's trapped on the first layer of the Nine Hells, and op fiat already handwaves that away anyway.
Eren can't even beat Tiamat weakened from the Nine Hells.
 
im curious what speed they even think jojo characters do operate at? Because they haven't actually said that yet. Just that every speed feat is invalid by either ignoring specific statements or clinging to ones that are at odds with others. I'm surprised I haven't seen them bring up "Josuke said Crazy Diamond is 300kmh" yet
Subsonic probably:mjpls
 

Wow, they think that means anything to Tiamat :mjlol
 
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