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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

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@Masterblack06 @Stocking Anarchy
About The Almighty, I have seen people argue that Yhwach can come back from the dead even after shit like Gae Bolg piercing his heart or other horrific debilitating shit... not realizing Yhwach only came back in the body he was already killed from.

Yhwach doesn't legit reset himself but somehow SB actually believes The Almighty can do shit like that. And final reminder, The Soul King with an even stronger version of The Almighty... was still stuck in a state between life and death and unable to change his fate at all, including being absorbed by Yhwach or gain himself a new body when Yhwach freed him or his split off a good chunk of his essence to attack the Soul Society.
 
Gonna ignore the To Aru shit for the sake of my sanity and health and instead...



I can never understand that proclivity from Spacebattle users in the slightest. A High Fantasy series or a Low Fantasy series is not the same as Hard Science Fiction nor should they be compared as such.
A Mage casting a Black Hole spell is as unrealistic as The City of Blame! at the end of the day, there's no reason to go "Why doesn't it act 500% like a genuine Black Hole?" when the obvious answer is "Maybe the Mage is capable of controlling the thing" should not be so obvious and apparent.

But considering the number of people who go full retard when it comes to Sephiroth's plan and "Why does he need Meteor then?" and completely ignore all Materia, including the Black Materia and Holy, come from The Lifestream and thus, Sephiroth has damn good reason to want all the Lifestream.
Or the fact that somehow the Heroes don't scale to the Summons despite it being a staple that they consistently fight the Summons and win in multiple games.

They legit cannot wrap their heads around anything from the Final Fantasy series... but they legit believe that you can say that All-Might, Deku, AFO and Shigaraki can be argued to be 4 Digit Mach speeds and can destroy entire Cities easily even before Star and Stripe happened.
Or that The Almighty can never be stopped because absolute BS in not understanding how limited his abilities actually are.
They can't handle FANTASY does not abhere to science but are ok when anime equally doesn't abhere to science and have just as many low ends.

The Lifeforce of the Planet is >>>> the Planet itself. This isn't even that unique to FFVII (the World of Twelve's Wakfu, Nirns power and the energy of the Chrono Trigger planet are far above just being planet level). Also Ultraman does the "create a pocket dimension to prevent collateral" thing too.
 
@Masterblack06 @Stocking Anarchy
About The Almighty, I have seen people argue that Yhwach can come back from the dead even after shit like Gae Bolg piercing his heart or other horrific debilitating shit... not realizing Yhwach only came back in the body he was already killed from.

Yhwach doesn't legit reset himself but somehow SB actually believes The Almighty can do shit like that. And final reminder, The Soul King with an even stronger version of The Almighty... was still stuck in a state between life and death and unable to change his fate at all, including being absorbed by Yhwach or gain himself a new body when Yhwach freed him or his split off a good chunk of his essence to attack the Soul Society.
Yhwach vs Contessa for who has the most wanked precog powers
 

>The Fury is only number 5
>Sentinels above the Fury
>Ultron number 1

Fuck outta here dawg
The deadliest machine in Marvel is the AI they get to write the scripts for the MCU.
 
In all fairness, PTV actually is pretty bullshit "precog", she's just too physically weak to really capitalize on it in most scenarios:mjlol


Yhwach
on the other hand?

lol

lmao
So it's a case of legit hax but is wanked to inane levels rather than whatever the fuck they're high on with Exalted.
 
They can't handle FANTASY does not abhere to science but are ok when anime equally doesn't abhere to science and have just as many low ends.

The Lifeforce of the Planet is >>>> the Planet itself. This isn't even that unique to FFVII (the World of Twelve's Wakfu, Nirns power and the energy of the Chrono Trigger planet are far above just being planet level). Also Ultraman does the "create a pocket dimension to prevent collateral" thing too.

Honestly, I have seen alot of people have issues with the concept of some series putting more onus on a living Planet having huge amounts of energy or energy that's beyond the level of a Planet itself.
I know I bring up the Nasuverse alot but it's honestly hilarious how SB cannot fathom the concept of the fact that it's not the same as our Planet Earth, like it's completely inconceivable to them that it legit creates parameters so that beings born on it can't destroy the Planet, it can self-govern not just it's own timelines, but the Moon Cell's as well and while it can't pointblank used the absurd levels of energy it has, specific outlets made for the case(Excalibur, Archetype: Earth and other Elementals) explicitly can and would rank super high.

Dear lord, Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross would fry these dude's brains if they even tried to put them in an actual VS. debate.

Yhwach vs Contessa for who has the most wanked precog powers
In all fairness, PTV actually is pretty bullshit "precog", she's just too physically weak to really capitalize on it in most scenarios:mjlol


Yhwach
on the other hand?

lol

lmao

That's the point though? SB has been known to wank Contessa to do things that she literally cannot do with PTV. PTV requires you to actually be able to do what it needs from you to follow it's predictions(Need to understand someone? Hope you know the language. It's insanely restrictive, yet they outright try and act like PTV is better than other Clairvoyant-tier shit when it's more middle of the road.

If I wanted to give myself more of an annerysm, I'd bring up how SB downplayed Arch-Curate Vrythur destroying the Chantry of Auri-El (or moreso, Dovahkiin surviving it) to sub-wall levels.

If you want that happening to me, you can check the Kokushibo vs. Kojirou thread for the maximum Demon Slayer SUCC.
 
So it's a case of legit hax but is wanked to inane levels rather than whatever the fuck they're high on with Exalted.
Essentially, yeah. I remember something about PtV being able to scan entire universes away, or at least across many versions of Earth, unless that's the unrestricted version that the Entities (or her Titan form) possess I'm thinking of.

Like, if you gave Path to Victory to, say, Accelerator...
I can't even imagine the nonsense he could get up to at that point :mjgrin
 
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Honestly, I have seen alot of people have issues with the concept of some series putting more onus on a living Planet having huge amounts of energy or energy that's beyond the level of a Planet itself.
I know I bring up the Nasuverse alot but it's honestly hilarious how SB cannot fathom the concept of the fact that it's not the same as our Planet Earth, like it's completely inconceivable to them that it legit creates parameters so that beings born on it can't destroy the Planet, it can self-govern not just it's own timelines, but the Moon Cell's as well and while it can't pointblank used the absurd levels of energy it has, specific outlets made for the case(Excalibur, Archetype: Earth and other Elementals) explicitly can and would rank super high.

Dear lord, Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross would fry these dude's brains if they even tried to put them in an actual VS. debate.
Oh they've downplayed Chrono Trigger too because of "the word 'magic'" so I could do without them talking more on it.
If you want that happening to me, you can check the Kokushibo vs. Kojirou thread for the maximum Demon Slayer SUCC.
The sub-wall level destroying a cathedral of stone and ice was brought up in the circle-jerk-which-SB-pretends-is-a-respect thread.
 

Is this as bad as I rememb-
During the Dawnguard expansion, the Dragonborn survives a magical explosion triggered by Arch-Curate Vyrthur. The blast obliterates the Chapel of Auriel, and sends at least a few hundred tons of stone flying about. According to @Terpischore, an intelligent skeptic/critic of the series who has proven difficult to contact, the energetic nature of Vyrthur’s spell may have followed from the shards of ice he draws to himself in the moments preceding the explosion. I partially disagree, offering that frozen water has no business surviving the kind of forces involved for any decent measure of impulse. Certainly not that which is required to scatter a fortress. Furthermore, the stonework beneath the trajectory of the shards is split just as easily as any other portion of the building, supporting the notion that some sort of omnidirectional force is at work. Of course, all that I ask is one give both of these interpretations some thought. I do not proclaim myself, “right.” That was never the point of this thread.
 
That's the point though? SB has been known to wank Contessa to do things that she literally cannot do with PTV. PTV requires you to actually be able to do what it needs from you to follow it's predictions(Need to understand someone? Hope you know the language. It's insanely restrictive, yet they outright try and act like PTV is better than other Clairvoyant-tier shit when it's more middle of the road.

Nah... You are a quite mistaken about this. Hell there's a legit instance where a specific opposite of that happens.

A voice, from behind her.

The black-skinned woman, shouting something in a foreign language.

I want to understand her.

One step.

She had only to think, ‘Stab it.

Fortuna realized she still held the knife aloft.

But where had she wanted to stab it?

Indecision gripped her. For an hour now, she’d been absolutely certain of what she was doing, and now she faced the absolute opposite situation.

Her hand shook. She nearly dropped the little trimming knife.
And she couldn’t bring herself to move an inch.

I want to tell her…

The words were alien to her as she spoke them. “I- I can’t.”

A hand wrapped around her shoulders. She felt a body press against her back, supporting her.

“I- I have seen visions. Things I was not meant to see, things this… godling wanted to keep to itself. I… have to stop it.”

But even as the words left her mouth, she couldn’t bring herself to move.

The woman leaned forward over Fortuna’s shoulder, her face in Fortuna’s peripheral vision. She said something.

“I believe you.”

The woman spoke in her ear once more, her voice insistent. She translated, asking for a way to understand the answers.

“It’s dangerous?”

Fortuna nodded.

“Are you sure?”

“I- I would stake everything on it. Everything ever.”

Though she didn’t even know the words she was speaking, there was a conviction in her tone that seemed to reach the woman.

“Where were you going to stab it?”

Where? The image had fled her mind, erased from her memory.

“Where?”
-Interlude 29

PTV autopilots her body, it's how she does outright superhuman precision feats. Her Stats are still very much human level though.
 
At some point, we have to acknowledge that the developers wanted us to respect the Greybeards. For this reason, I think the Dragonborn’s official recognition is a very relevant feat. There were obviously no, “mountain-level,” attacks being tossed around, but the Dragonborn survives being spoken to by four Greybeards at once. The halls of the building tremble, the province shakes. The game even goes as far as to render a unique postprocessing effect to indicate the presence of some sort of force. While the specific details of said power remain mysterious, the Dragonborn is clearly supposed to be stronger than an average human being. Well, that is one interpretation of the scene. I have recently spoken with @Heliostorm regarding the nature of this particular event, and he offered that what is being demonstrated is not necessarily the Dragonborn’s physical durability so much as a form of resistance to tonal magic. For instance, people with a powerful Thu’um can inherently resist others’ shouts. I cannot deny that this is easy to envision, and somewhat supported by the Greybeards’ ability to, “taste,” of a foreign Voice.
"There was no mountain level attacks, except the feat did happen and the intention was to show how strong the power of the Greybeards and Dovahkiin is, but instead of refering to any kind of official source I'm going to reference some guy who said it was split durability."
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"There was no mountain level attacks, except the feat did happen and the intention was to show how strong the power of the Greybeards and Dovahkiin is, but instead of refering to any kind of official source I'm going to reference some guy who said it was split durability."
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"yeah he's just resistant to that magic that very obviously carries a lot of kinetic energy and isn't actually hax per-se"

:mjgrin
 
I find it hard to believe that these two are supposed to be weaker than generic Ayleid warriors just because of a fancy jumping animation. Even assuming the Ayleid warrior animation is canon outside of game mechanics we have no idea of that specific (seemingly magical) skill can in any way be scaled to the rest of their physical attributes. And if Gukimir the ex-legionnaire or Lathon the Squire can offer meaningful aid against an invasion of Ayleids then I find it somewhat dubious that Ayleid warriors are all canonically on par with shonen combat anime characters.


The main series of TES games may be lacking in some ways, but I think it's important to remember that ESO has it's own even heavier abstractions.

MMO's aren't really designed to be Fantasy Life Simulators the way the main-line games were.
This comes from the guy who tried to scale the magic attacks thrown at the Brothers to be equal to the Maidens.

Also knights can't be as powerful as "shounen combat anime characters" because they have swords.
 

This comes from the guy who tried to scale the magic attacks thrown at the Brothers to be equal to the Maidens.

Also knights can't be as powerful as "shounen combat anime characters" because they have swords.
It's insane how he has the gall to type this shit after he got BTFO'd for that nonsense in the Servants vs Tamriel thread.
 
@Paxton
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Someone posted this in a thread and my mind immediately went "Touma is gonna throw the meanest right hook of his life and absolutely take her head off" but then i rememeber that this isnt mugen
:hestonpls
 
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