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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Author was just too stupid to think of a more graceful dance, to juxtapose the destruction Shiva can bring, before creation. :heston Reminder, this is the same nigga who had Buddha not giving a fuck about logic, and wearing fucking sunglasses before he became recognized as a god, back in ancient times.:jordangif

had he actually used the nataraja I would have forgiven it

I still wouldn't have forgiven heracles poseidon and hades, but I would have forgiven shiva :russ
 
Ulquiorra washes this bum
Does he now?
The Fear would have very little affect on Ulquiorra as he’s nigh emotionless,
He is NOT emotionless, nigh or otherwise, just stoic in a similar manner to Byakuya or Haschwalth where he doesn't show his emotions openly.

We literally see him get openly frustrated over Ichigo's defiance, gives up after losing because he's no longer useful to his lord (which obviously shows a clear fear of his by the way), doesn't want to set Lanza off close to him for FEAR of what it would do to him etc etc.

He ain't emotionless and As Nodt's ability WILL work just fine.
not to mention he has the better strength, speed, durability and stamina feats along with larger AOE
He literally has better feats in none of these areas except AOE.
Those fear spikes aren’t hitting jack shit
They hit Byakuya who matched an Espada known for his speed and who could tag and react to the highest ranked Espada.
They absolutely are gonna hit Ulquiorra.
and Ulq will blitz and one shot
Nope.
If anything it's the other way around.
The fact his whole aspect of death is nothingness that’s my proof
Ulquiorra's aspect of death isn't nothingness, it's fucking nihilism you moron.

Nihilism at a base level simply refers to negativity (which is very much seen with Ulq) and not only does this NOT preclude him from having emotions, it almost requires him to veer more heavily towards "negative" emotions such as anger or fear. Which would, if anything, make him MORE susceptible to As Nodt's Schirft, not LESS.

The lengths Ulquiorra wankers go to is ridiculous, even trying to re-write the guy's personality. :smh
 


Psure like once you reach a level of strength where you can easily punch through brick walls and concrete, car crashes and plane crashes ain't gonna do much.
 
He loses without prep.

He probably has a counter to base Nodt’s fear arrows due to his body modifications. But I don’t see how he gets around Tartar Foras penetrating optic nerves
Well with full knowledge he can close his eyes and order his bankai to attack Nodt. His bankai is autonomous and I don't think it can be affected by fear. But in general I agree that Nodt has more chances to win.
Round 1: Mayuri has no counter to Tartar Foras from what we’ve seen. If he manages to pull it out before Mayuri can BS something he wins.

Round 2: He starts the fight with a major handicap which will make As Nodt’s victory very easy.
Mayuri the guy who:
  • Even Askin figured would take too much effort and time to defeat and tried to lure him to a more advantageous area.
  • Defeated Giselle, Zombie Toshiro, Stabbed Kenpachi with his Shikai AND defeated an Elite Nazi in Pernida.
  • Had Liltotto calling Mustache an idiot for not having him on his list.
  • Did basically all of that without any prep.
Is going to lose to fucking As Nodt just because he doesn't have prep? :heston

People really need to get out of this idea that Mayuri is only a threat when he has prep, the ONLY opponent he defeated with prep alone was Szayel and again all his best feats are done without it. :maybe
 

Deathdealing can be resisted by power.

No it can't, that's one of the biggest reasons why it's so strong.

Yoruichi and Urahara are just much stronger than Shikai Ichigo.

Is everyone in SB full of godawful takes for Bleach?! Neither Urahara nor Yoruichi are stronger than True Shikai Ichigo, this shit is not for fucking debate when neither of them tried to clean house on any of the Sternritter on their own power.

Everything points to that, right down to their performance against the same (and stronger version of the same) opponent. No amount of straw-clutching or intellectual nonsense matters in front of evidence this overwhelming. These were guys who could threaten and arguably defeat Aizen sans Kyoka Suigetsu before the timeskip where they are at their best.

>True Shikai Ichigo
>So much stronger that without even drawing his weapons, not using the Horn of Salvation and only emitting pure reiatsu, Soul King Yhwach couldn't find a single opening to exploit. Askin only got him by literally reversing all of his Reiatsu on himself and how quickly he got up after, he was just pinned down.

>Yoruichi and Urahara
>Couldn't even defeat the DeathDealing without needing immunization drugs and was still getting wrecked when he started amping the shit. Urahara needing his Reality Altering Bankai just to stand a good chance and even THEN, still required Grimmjow to kill him.

(Someone else provided this right after the post)

Amazing. Ichigo was finally as strong as he used to be when he first fought Kenpachi.

This is so disingenuous that I'm actually shocked this came from Blaze, who tends to have bad takes but tends to atleast not be a complete idiot like Imaginary or that other guy.

Reiatsu having a visible manifestation has occurred many times before by comparative weaklings. Forget being visible. Ulquiorra, Halibel, 10 year old Hitsugaya, and Yamamoto all had tangible effects with their reiatsu. Please stop eating up incredibly vague statements from someone as unreliable and quite frankly, idiot, as Yhwach.

There is a literal fucking difference between Reiatsu being visibly manifested and it being so strong it literally works as an extra layer of defense... FOR SOUL KING YHWACH! Holy fucking shit, for bringing up the fact that "He's as strong as when he fought Kenpachi" it's like you forgot the very rules of how Reiatsu works if there's an overwhelming amount you can't bypass.
Or did people also miss that despite Yhwach going all in on Ichigo, he did no real critical wounds to him but blew an Aizen stronger than his Monster self to pieces with every goddamned hit.
 

Why would I ignore something that hadn't even taken place? Urahara is not shown to have taken any drugs, and it wouldn't affect Askin's statement when he already knew the drug's efficacy on his lesser poisons.

>Literally shows that Urahara injected the Immunization Drug into Yoruichi's ass in that panel
>Heavily implied Urahara dosed himself as well.
Yeah... this is SB's finest right here...

Yoruichi flat out had not taken the drug at the time Askin praised her beyond Ichigo.

Yoruichi took a Gift Ball that otherwise just made shit like Oxygen and 2 other things poisonous to her. Ichigo stepped into Gift Pool which literally made his own Reiatsu poisonous to himself, I feel that context is being THOROUGHLY removed here.

That's hilarious.
Moreso that you can't even realize how bad that looks on Ichigo for having an extended fight against Askin and being unable to even scratch him.

You mean just like Grimmjow who couldn't keep up with Askin and he threw a Gift Bad at him and Grimmjow not knowing what it is gets knocked out instantly by it? I don't see how that reflects badly on Ichigo when we know Askin has some incredible reflexes and movement seeing as Yoruichi needs Shunko to keep up at all.

Whereas Yoruichi instantly gave him severe wounds. Gift pool is a weak poison by Askin's admission. From the moment Ichigo stepped in, he lost.

Ichigo. Had all. Of his reiatsu. Turned against him as literal fucking poison! It's the equivalent of turning Goku's Ki into oxins and calling him a bitch for not taking it like a champ.

Yeah, remember what I said?

No amount of straw-clutching or intellectual nonsense matters in front of evidence this overwhelming.

Fuck off Blaze, you are literally being no goddamned different here! You are acting as if what Yoruichi went through with one Gift Ball was the same as having all of your Reiatsu turn toxic, especially for someone on Ichigo's level!

This is you. You're not even arguing against the points (cause you can't), you're just spouting some irrelevant nonsense.

Literal fucking Projection

One word: Uryu.

How the fuck does that make Yhwach idiotic of all things?! Needless to forget Yhwach knew Uryu may turn on him which is why:
1. He made him drink his blood in the first fucking place so if Uryu dies, congrats, he gets what made Uryu immune to him AND his true power which is the Anti-Thesis, something on the level of The Almighty
2. He explicitly made Uryu his successor which meant all of the Sternritter eyes will be on him, making them distrust him even more
3. It's explicitly clear that Haschwalth knew he was gonna betray them and constantly was on his ass every chance he got.

Like you fucking kidding me with this shit?!
 
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Stop dodging the point by repeating yourself.

You. Are doing. The same thing. You clod!

Askin stated anyone else would have dropped dead from his hybrid gift ball.

Yeah congratulations, Yoruichi is strong, how the fuck does this make her or Urahara > True Shikai Ichigo?

Ichigo is one of those who proved fully susceptible to a weaker poison not five minutes ago.

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  • Gift Bad (毒入りプール (ギフト・バート), Gifuto Bāto; German for "Poison Bath", Japanese for "Poison Pool"): Askin creates a darkened area of influence the size of a large circle on the ground; if anyone steps within its radius, Askin can lower their resistance to anything, such as Reishi, causing them to become "poisoned" by high amounts of that substance.[56]
Reishi composes the spiritual bodies of Souls, including Hollows and Shinigami, and everything in Hueco Mundo and Soul Society.[1][2][3] Reishi is invisible and intangible to mortals, with the exception of spiritually aware ones such as the Quincy or Fullbringers.[4]

I wonder why Ichigo fell to a "weaker" Gift than what Yoruichi went through, I fucking wonder...

Against the same woman who actually seriously injured him unlike Ichigo. None of your deflecting is changing something so damn obvious.

I guess Mayuri > True Shikai Ichigo as well as Askin also would have "had to go serious" against him too right? Like ignore all of the fucking context.

There is no evidence that Urahara actually injected himself. And EVEN IF HE DID, it doesn't matter. Askin knew Urahara had counter measures to his weaker poison and was still surprised that Kisuke could move as fast as he did. Meaning based on what he had literally seen 2 seconds ago, Kisuke's mobility cannot be attributed to the antidote he gave Yoruichi

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I like how the evidence he uses... is literally something TvTropes contextualized far better...
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O.O.C. Is Serious Business: During his fight with Askin, Urahara acts fairly witty and laidback. When Askin reveals why he follows the Quincy king though, Urahara goes silent before attacking Askin without warning in a way that Askin even points out seems odd of him, an act motivated by an understated anger at Askin's motivations for doing what he does.

It was like Urahara was legit pissed off that Askin's answer he gave was something he didn't like and he actually went fully serious there, not the bullshit Blaze gave out of context.

There are few comparisons in all of Bleach as clear as this.

You took the page out of fucking context, you lying piece of shit!

Who the hell is talking about that fight?
We're talking about Ichigo vs Askin compared to Yoruichi and Urahara. Can you keep your strawmen to yourself?

BECAUSE THAT'S ABSOLUTELY FUCKING IMPORTANT, THAT'S WHAT IT IS! If Ichigo can take down 8 Sternritter in Volstandigt at the same time without Bankai and only being serious and in Shikai, then what the fuck does that make Urahara standing on the sidelines doing nothing about?! Hell, does that mean Askin >>> Bazzard Black, The Femritters, Nanana and 2 others as well?!

1) Yhwach never said he had any intention of understanding. You pulled that straight out of your ass

...He literally wanted to know why Uryu survived the Ashwalen, that's precisely why he accepted Uryu's offer in the first fucking place!

2) Very easy way for him to do this. He gains the powers and knowledge of those he kills

YOU LITERALLY ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION... and present the guy like he's wrong for daring to disagree that Yhwach was being an idiot there.

3) Fucking stupid for you to let curiosity that you NEVER ACT UPON to literally lead to your death and unravel everything you worked to create. Also because you killed all the men that could possibly have helped you.

...Bro, my guy, my dude... did you forget about the fucking Stillbern that was needed to weaken Yhwach and his Almighty in the first place? Because that was made by Uryu, but RYUKEN, you fucking mong! The Anti-Thesis only has the power to go tell the Almighty's main strength to go fuck off but that's it! It wouldn't have mattered worth a damn otherwise.

Yhwach is an utter buffoon whose recklesness led to his own downfall. This not even getting into how hollow and contradictory his speeches are. He's worse than even Kaido in how easily he contradicts himself. Peace my ass. He's a warmonger who delights in murder and torture.

...THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT! You guys see what I mean here?! I cannot believe people legit believe that Kubo is some major ass idiot when you have people like Blaze and Imaginary that somehow stumbles on some of the most obvious shit ever and think it's a flaw of the writing and not Yhwach being a hypocrite intentionally.
He literally NEEDS to kill or else he will revert back into his baby form, thus despite saying he wants "peace", he HAS TO DO CONSTANT WARS TO KEEP HIS CURRENT EXISTENCE ACTIVE! Like holy shit, people need to actually go back and learn to fucking comprehend how to read.

All irrelevant here though. His statement for Ichigo means nothing. Visible reiatsu has been a concept seen in complete jokers to the final arc heavyweights.

Ah so we can completely ignore Aizen's Reiatsu being so strong that it can destroy souls and even tear body parts off if the person isn't strong enough to withstand it... but it's not the same in this case for Ichigo because "We've seen it elsewhere" despite Yhwach literally stating that it leaves him with NO FUCKING OPENINGS!
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THIS IS FROM THE SAME FUCKING PAGE THAT YHWACH STATES THAT!
 
Remind me, is there ever an explanation given as to how the Anti-thesis is on the level of the Almighty?

Because frankly, I don't buy it :hm
 
Remind me, is there ever an explanation given as to how the Anti-thesis is on the level of the Almighty?

Because frankly, I don't buy it :hm

Because you are looking at it wrong.
The Almighty, outside of basically making Yhwach immortal in the ultimate sense, allows him to "transform the future" by bringing it to the present but he primarily does it through attacks.

The Anti-Thesis allows anything that happens to ANYONE be switched around to something or ANYONE else by Uryu's designation. Meaning say for instance, Yhwach uses The Almighty to hit Ichigo through Orihime's shield like he does in the Manga. Uryu can use the Anti-Thesis to render that completely moot by either having Yhwach's attack hit the Shield or the damage Ichigo took go to Orihime's Shield or Yhwach himself.

It's ultimately a huge "No fuck you" card to The Almighty since it wouldn't matter in terms of combat as Uryu can basically "go fuck yourself, you are eating that hit you changed the future for" no matter what Yhwach does.
 
Remind me, is there ever an explanation given as to how the Anti-thesis is on the level of the Almighty?

Because frankly, I don't buy it :hm
To ACTUALLY answer the question you asked (and not assume you meant Death Dealing because there was a lot of talk of Askin there), it's because Antithesis manipulates a PAST event, something that The Almighty has no control over.

Same principal as to how Book of the End was able to completely neg the effects of it which prevented Orihime from fixing Ichigo's Bankai.
 
Mayuri only ever shows up with Prep or mid battle after he’s already studied a combatant

When he’s without prep and caught by surprise he had a tendency to get holes blown through him
He had no prep whatsoever going into the fight with Pernida and still fucking won, what the fuck are you talking about?

Seriously what mythical version of Bleach did these people read where Mayuri is somehow impotent without prep? :scust
 
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