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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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I'd say this is humility but this is just delusion at that point:tupac
"Im nothing special"
He says doding attacks from a god
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thats like karate kid getting hit by speed force lightning, living, and going "i just dodged"
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"Im nothing special"
He says doding attacks from a god
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thats like karate kid getting hit by speed force lightning, living, and going "i just dodged"
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In a way, he's technically right about his specs not improving

he just stopped holding back :mjpls
 

I mean, they don't dodge, block or try to defend against his first attack. They do nothing against the first attack.

Later:
Someone asking him if Sukuna can even destroy the Throne:

I don't know.

Then what the fuck is even the point if you don't know if Sukuna can destroy the Throne at all? Don't put that weak-ass bait there if you don't even know the answer or not?

I'm not sure about adaptation, but he could probably just target the head like oris said.

Targeting Karna's head does nothing because uh, I know this is a hard thing to grasp but those earrings Karna has? That is a part of his armor and it's fused to the rest of his body, you know this.

When I chose Ozy, I thought maybe Sukuna could destroy the temple and Ozy with his first attack to counter his immortality.

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Come on dude, this isn't even funny anymore as Ozymandias' Temple has shown far worse it has taken than anything from Strong Cleave and why would Sukuna do that anyway considering his dumbass will try and fight Ozymandias to prove how "superior" he is and then die by the poison while being ganked by Sphinxes
 
"Im nothing special"
He says doding attacks from a god
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thats like karate kid getting hit by speed force lightning, living, and going "i just dodged"
:heston
Touma is a professional chef
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But he did not have time to call out to her.
The atmosphere changed.
A section of the twilit city was filled with solid tension, like a photograph with an unnatural image pasted onto it.
Furashina Ririn was held on either side by a boy and a girl. A van sped up alongside them and came to a rapid stop as its tires screeched. The side of the van bore the name of a material transportation company that did work for the Virtual-On tournament, but that label was obviously fake.
Kamijou could tell Furashina Ririn would be stuffed in the back seat in no time.
“Wait, wait, wait, wait! What’s going on!? Did she get herself in trouble again!?”
“I have turned video recording on, but should I send the license plate number to Anti-Skill?”
“Please do. That means I’ve gotta buy some time for the grownups to show up!”
“Hm? Wait, Touma-sama, what are you doing!?”
Fortunately, the van’s path took it toward Kamijou after getting Furashina Ririn onboard. And there was a reason Lilina grew so frantic despite being a voice processing program.
Kamijou had ducked into an alley, grabbed a metal pipe from the ground, and returned.
“Wait, wait, wait! My infrared sensor is telling me that van is moving at an estimated 60kph. You’ll die! Stand up to that and you’ll die! At least let me back myself up to the cloud first!!”
“Don’t be so sure.”
Kamijou held the blunt weapon like a baseball bat.
The van made a lot of noise as it approached.
“You don’t have to smash the hunk of steel to pieces. As long as you hit it, you can stop a car.”
Just as the target vehicle was about to pass him by, Kamijou Touma swung the metal pipe horizontally like some kind of joke.
At first glance, it looked like he was sacrificing both his arms.
But.
A moment later, the bumper detected an impact and the van’s airbag triggered.
There was nothing the driver could do.
The airbag in the steering wheel prioritized the driver’s life and showed little concern for anything else. The large balloon blocked his vision and his arms were knocked outwards.
In other words, the van lost control.
It briefly swerved in an S-shape but could not regain its balance. It collided with the support pillar of a nearby wind turbine and came to a stop.
Kamijou raised his left hand to his right shoulder and spun the entire arm around.
“Let’s get started.”
“You natural monster… Wouldn’t that normally dislocate both your arms!?”
“It’s not like I pulled off some crazy stunt like negating the blow by matching the center of impact. I’m only a normal high school boy, so the most I can do is let go of the pipe just before impact.”
With that, Kamijou ran over to the crashed van. He spotted something spherical floating in the sky overhead: a Virtual-On referee.
 
No, he's not. He's the "spirit" of chaos and disharmony like the Mane 6 are the "spirits" of harmony.
The Mane 6 don't literally die/cease to exist if they stop being harmonious, Discord does if he stops being chaotic. He's absolutely the personification of chaos, not simply representative of it. You can even see that in the quotes that he posted, Twilight states her friends "REPRESENT the spirit of the Elements" while all statements regarding Discord simply say he "IS the spirit of chaos and disharmony".

These statements aren't saying the same thing moron.
He can absorb energy, which is Discord's fatal weakness.
Since when? Tirek in season 4 and the trio in season 9 were able to do this because they were MORE POWERFUL than him, not because he is particularly susceptible to it. or some such nonsense.

We even literally see Chrysalis completely no-sell a weaker Tirek's attempt to drain her magic, Gremmy trying that shit on Discord will fare no better.
Both of these are things he created, and making something "disappear" is not proof of existence erasure.
Except they didn't just "dissapear" otherwise they would still exist somewhere else, he completely erased it. The problem here is that he's never been shown to be able to do this to living beings he didn't make himself, not that it's just "disappearing".
Blowing away a field of magic is also not power nullification, and certainly not something that would be applicable to Gremmy.
Yeah because Gremmy's shit has never been blown through or no-sold through sheer power right?
Oh wait, that's literally how he was beaten, by someone who is a fucking insect by comparison to any MLP high tier much less Discord. :mjpls
Leave him powerless of course.
Yes there's just the SLIGHT issue of proving Gremmy is even powerful enough to achieve this, which you can't do because Discord is MUCH more powerful than anyone in the Bleach verse.
Yes, it does. Gremmy's power surpasses that of Tirek at his peak and the Elements of Harmony both.
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MLP high tiers throw stars around with their telekinesis like they're fucking tennis balls, Celestia alone has a solar system level feat, yet it takes the combined power of all four alicorns to match Tirek when he had the magic of Equestria's citizens and Discord.

The Elements of Harmony are stronger still, absolutely fucking NOTHING in Bleach touches them in the slightest.
Yes it has, on multiple occasions:
-He could not overpower the Elements of Harmony
Because they are stronger than him, Gremmy isn't.
-He could not resist Tirek's magic draining.
Because Tirek was stronger than him, Gremmy isn't.
-He couldn't either resist or circumvent the magic draining of Chrysalis' throne.
Because it completely negates all forms of magic other than Changeling magic, INCLUDING Chaos Magic
Power level wasn't the issue here and factoring in equilization, it would neg Gremmy just as easily.
-He could not resist the magic draining of Grogar's bell.
Because Grogar is stronger than him, Gremmy is not.
-He fades away from existence if he acts too normal for long, and he loses the ability to use his magic to reverse the effect or cause chaos himself.
I thought you said he WASN'T literally the spirit of chaos, why are you bringing up the scene that proves he was.
This also isn't a limitation that could be exploited as it requires Discord himself to go completely out of character to work.
It's no different than how Gremmy killed himself, how'd he manage that again? Remind me! :kobeha
The potency of what, a bunch of magic that can't even destroy some small mountains? The potency of a magic that will run out forever after a single banishing spell to another dimension?
Can't even destroy some mountains? A fucking regular unicorn in Rarity can casually cover a town and the two mountain ranges at either side of it with weather, that alone was calc'ed at island level. As mentioned before, the actual high tiers fling stars around so yeah, Gremmy has jack shit on their level of potency.

Yes because The Pony of Shadows was so powerful that it would take that level of energy to banish him. The ponies wouldn't even need the Elements to deal with Gremmy. Twilight alone just casts the Stone Sleep spell and calls it a day. :hestonpls
 

The Mane 6 don't literally die/cease to exist if they stop being harmonious, Discord does if he stops being chaotic. He's absolutely the personification of chaos, not simply representative of it. You can even see that in the quotes that he posted, Twilight states her friends "REPRESENT the spirit of the Elements" while all statements regarding Discord simply say he "IS the spirit of chaos and disharmony".

These statements aren't saying the same thing moron.

Since when? Tirek in season 4 and the trio in season 9 were able to do this because they were MORE POWERFUL than him, not because he is particularly susceptible to it. or some such nonsense.

We even literally see Chrysalis completely no-sell a weaker Tirek's attempt to drain her magic, Gremmy trying that shit on Discord will fare no better.

Except they didn't just "dissapear" otherwise they would still exist somewhere else, he completely erased it. The problem here is that he's never been shown to be able to do this to living beings he didn't make himself, not that it's just "disappearing".

Yeah because Gremmy's shit has never been blown through or no-sold through sheer power right?
Oh wait, that's literally how he was beaten, by someone who is a fucking insect by comparison to any MLP high tier much less Discord. :mjpls

Yes there's just the SLIGHT issue of proving Gremmy is even powerful enough to achieve this, which you can't do because Discord is MUCH more powerful than anyone in the Bleach verse.

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MLP high tiers throw stars around with their telekinesis like they're fucking tennis balls, Celestia alone has a solar system level feat, yet it takes the combined power of all four alicorns to match Tirek when he had the magic of Equestria's citizens and Discord.

The Elements of Harmony are stronger still, absolutely fucking NOTHING in Bleach touches them in the slightest.

Because they are stronger than him, Gremmy isn't.

Because Tirek was stronger than him, Gremmy isn't.

Because it completely negates all forms of magic other than Changeling magic, INCLUDING Chaos Magic
Power level wasn't the issue here and factoring in equilization, it would neg Gremmy just as easily.

Because Grogar is stronger than him, Gremmy is not.

I thought you said he WASN'T literally the spirit of chaos, why are you bringing up the scene that proves he was.
This also isn't a limitation that could be exploited as it requires Discord himself to go completely out of character to work.
It's no different than how Gremmy killed himself, how'd he manage that again? Remind me! :kobeha

Can't even destroy some mountains? A fucking regular unicorn in Rarity can casually cover a town and the two mountain ranges at either side of it with weather, that alone was calc'ed at island level. As mentioned before, the actual high tiers fling stars around so yeah, Gremmy has jack shit on their level of potency.

Yes because The Pony of Shadows was so powerful that it would take that level of energy to banish him. The ponies wouldn't even need the Elements to deal with Gremmy. Twilight alone just casts the Stone Sleep spell and calls it a day. :hestonpls
Did you get to the part where he says the comics arent canon after beign shown evidence they are
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Did you get to the part where he says the comics arent canon after beign shown evidence they are
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Just gotten to that part. :hestonpls
The comics aren't canon.
Yes they are, so long as they don't contradict the show, this was directly stated years ago. That's the way the comics have always worked and obviously anything that's come out since the end of the show is canon since there's no more show to contradict them.
Yes, because the comics themselves have stated they aren't canon. In one of the last issues, the one for the 10th anniversary of issue #1, it's revealed that most of the stories were just made up by Spike in the form of actual comics in-universe to share their adventures with the rest of Equestria.
Meanwhile the people writing them and making the show have directly stated that they ARE canon to the show, insofar as they don't contradict it. The season 10 comics are literally a continuation of the setting, with the Show being finished.
My point remains unchanged however, which is that the Elements of Harmony have explicitly limited power.
And that power is still WORLDS beyond ANYTHING in Bleach.
No, he's not. For starters, it is not Starswirl that claims the Elements will be lost/destroyed, it is always Twilight. And it's not merely interdimensional travel that is the issue, it's a banishment spell that will send the Pony of Shadows to limbo and bind him there
And this is because the Pony of Shadows is so powerful which, given he is literally the only being who was able to resist the Elements in the slightest, should surprise no one. Grogar is his only real competition for strongest individual being in the verse.
Infinite alternate realities or the multiverse aren't things that exist in MLP: FiM canon.
The Season Five finale, Discord opening a portal to a live action world and The Equestria Girls movies would like to have a fucking word with you Garbs.
Why are you using an outdated quote from 2014 instead of say, a recent actual comic book issue?
Because that particular comic could simply be a parody, especially considering the amount of comics that don't even involve Spike despite him saying "he could only write from his point of view".

Why in hell would we take this over a very direct statement with regards to their canonicity to the show?
Sure there is, the fact that Discord doesn't even have mind "control", he just corrupts minds to be the opposite of their personalities. He has never showcased the ability to freely control his targets.
He did that to the Elements themselves, because it would make it impossible for them to use the Elements.
Big Mac on the other hand, he just straight up made him think he was a dog.

Also he made Rarity and Rainbow think a boulder and a small cloud were a hunk of diamond and the city of Cloudsdale respectively. That's outright mind control dipshit.
Bleach characters can in fact travel between dimensions.
Bleach characters open specific pathways between their dimensions, there is NO EVIDENCE they would be able to come back from a completely separate dimension.
Everything but Gremmy's brain is imagined by him and Discord's magic has never shown the ability to affect internal organs.
Why wouldn't he be able to? He has telekinesis and reality warping, both of which have been shown to work on living things.
There's no reason he wouldn't be able to affect the Brain that is Gremmy.
Absorb energy.
Once again, good luck with that when he's nowhere near as powerful as Discord, unlike the characters who have successfully accomplished this in the show,
The season 10 MLP comics never became the primary canon, that statement doesn't even make sense. The primary canon can only be the source material first released, because that's what it means.
The Season 10 comics are literally a direct continuation of the G4 story, OF COURSE THEY ARE CANON.
Even if you want to argue that the comics became canon staring from season 10 onwards, that would still be false as G5 has come out
and little to nothing about the comics has been referenced or even hinted at in the movies or shows.
Yes that would because GEN 5 is a completely different thing with it's own continuity which, at best takes place in the VERY FAR FUTURE of Equestria but otherwise has nothing whatsoever to do with Gen 4.

In the same way that Gen 1, Gen 2 and Gen 3 are also not canon to Gen 4 or each other. Each Generation is it's OWN continuity dipshit, I really shouldn't have to explain this.
Gremmy is not as physically or spiritually weak as a pony,
That very much depends on the Pony in question, he's stronger than the average but would get his shit slapped by the likes of Starswirl or Starlight.
while he's certainly more powerful than all of the things that have deprived Discord of his powers.
No he's not at all, he's not even fucking close to any of them.
 
Just gotten to that part. :hestonpls

Yes they are, so long as they don't contradict the show, this was directly stated years ago. That's the way the comics have always worked and obviously anything that's come out since the end of the show is canon since there's no more show to contradict them.

Meanwhile the people writing them and making the show have directly stated that they ARE canon to the show, insofar as they don't contradict it. The season 10 comics are literally a continuation of the setting, with the Show being finished.

And that power is still WORLDS beyond ANYTHING in Bleach.

And this is because the Pony of Shadows is so powerful which, given he is literally the only being who was able to resist the Elements in the slightest, should surprise no one. Grogar is his only real competition for strongest individual being in the verse.

The Season Five finale, Discord opening a portal to a live action world and The Equestria Girls movies would like to have a fucking word with you Garbs.

Because that particular comic could simply be a parody, especially considering the amount of comics that don't even involve Spike despite him saying "he could only write from his point of view".

Why in hell would we take this over a very direct statement with regards to their canonicity to the show?

He did that to the Elements themselves, because it would make it impossible for them to use the Elements.
Big Mac on the other hand, he just straight up made him think he was a dog.

Also he made Rarity and Rainbow think a boulder and a small cloud were a hunk of diamond and the city of Cloudsdale respectively. That's outright mind control dipshit.

Bleach characters open specific pathways between their dimensions, there is NO EVIDENCE they would be able to come back from a completely separate dimension.

Why wouldn't he be able to? He has telekinesis and reality warping, both of which have been shown to work on living things.
There's no reason he wouldn't be able to affect the Brain that is Gremmy.

Once again, good luck with that when he's nowhere near as powerful as Discord, unlike the characters who have successfully accomplished this in the show,

The Season 10 comics are literally a direct continuation of the G4 story, OF COURSE THEY ARE CANON.

Yes that would because GEN 5 is a completely different thing with it's own continuity which, at best takes place in the VERY FAR FUTURE of Equestria but otherwise has nothing whatsoever to do with Gen 4.

In the same way that Gen 1, Gen 2 and Gen 3 are also not canon to Gen 4 or each other. Each Generation is it's OWN continuity dipshit, I really shouldn't have to explain this.

That very much depends on the Pony in question, he's stronger than the average but would get his shit slapped by the likes of Starswirl or Starlight.

No he's not at all, he's not even fucking close to any of them.
this shits fucking hilarious man
 
this shits fucking hilarious man
Oh it definitely is.

And since I know he tends to come here occasionally, I'm just wondering which bullshit argument he's gonna pull to "refute" the star moving feats.

Perhaps that it's not a raw power feat, even though it definitely is by sheer virtue of how magic works in this universe. There's a reason Starswirl needs five powerful unicorns to help him move the Sun (which burns the other unicorns out of the ability to even use magic btw) while Celestia and/or Luna can do it fucking casually on their own.

That it doesn't scale to their attacks or durability even though it's done through the same power source (ie their magic energy/stamina) and they outright tank each other's attacks regularly.

But let's face facts, it's gonna be the good old "those stars aren't the same size as ours", which considering the opposition and the wank going around about "his stars" is just gonna be a nice case of double standards. Especially when MLP actually has evidence to support them being full sized stars while Gremmy does not.
 

Like I legit doubt it's that easy to defeat Discord but I'm also pretty sure Chaldea has the muscle to defeat him though.


1. That speed feat is alright but overblown to hell and back as per usual as even Kuzuki and Shirou when he fought Kuzuki the first time is capable of that speed.

2. How DO you scale Sukuna to Toji in the first place because trying to do so through speed is just 500 levels of stupid.
 
The existence of an alternate dimension does not prove the existence of a multiverse.
On it's own? No it doesn't.
The existance of multiple other dimensions or universes which has been proven to be a thing in the show definitely does though.
You keep repeating this word, "illustrator", why should I take the words of a mere artist speciously when they have no input or authority on the story of the series?
Yeah the LEAD ILLUSTRATOR in a comic (a medium where the illustrations are kind of fucking important to the story) has NO input on the story whatsoever. :kobeha

Never mind the fact that he wouldn't even be able to make any kind of canonicity statement with regards to the comics and the show unless it was actually the case.
Yes, that feat is indeed more physically impressive than anything in MLP.
Gremmy's meteor...more impressive than anything in MLP? :heston
Being the living embodiment of chaos is not a feat.
Kind of is when it makes it nearly impossible to kill or do meaningful damage to the fucker unless you can destroy chaos itself.
It has been shown multiple times in the show that the moving of the sun and moon is a special magic spell that does not scale to the overall power of the magic users like telekinesis or energy beams.
No it hasn't, not even once.

Not only has it NEVER been shown to be anything other than basic telekinesis, even if it WAS, the simple way in which magic works in this universe (ie that it's powered by the magic energy of the user directly) would still mean it absolutely scales to any other spell they do.
5 unicorn wizards and Starswirl can also move the sun and the moon, with the caveat that the 5 wizards lose their magic forever.
Yeah because the 5 other unicorns aren't powerful enough to do it without permanently damaging themselves in the process.
Not sure how this does anything but completely obliterate your argument for it not scaling to their dc.
Considering that Starswirl does not lose his magic forever it is clear that he is close enough to being powerful enough to do it alone. And Starlight Glimmer is explicitly stated to be almost as strong as Starswirl, so clearly it's not like his power is incomprehensible greater than other ponies.
That's not what that proves at all.

All this means is that Starlight Glimmer is ALSO incomprehensibly powerful compared to the average Pony, which has been the case since her fucking introduction. She literally matched Alicorn Twilight spell for spell and now her being "almost as powerful as Starswirl (ie still weaker)" is supposed to prove something other than she's powerful as all hell? :really
Likewise, the magic of Twilight as an alicorn princess is comparable in raw power to that of Celestia and Luna,
No it's not and the scene you just referenced blatantly shows that it isn't.

Starswirl (who is stronger than Starlight and Alicorn Twilight) needs help to struggle to do what Celestia and Luna can do CASUALLY on their own. Even in Season 9, Twilight still needs Celestia and Luna to move the Sun and Moon. She, Starswirl and Starlight are nowhere near as strong as them.
and yet she also cannot move the sun and moon on her own without their magic, meaning that they have it easier due to their special talents as evidenced by their cutie marks.
Not how Cutie Marks work.
Cutie Marks just REPRESENT what a Pony's talent or goal in life is, it doesn't give them abilities that they don't have otherwise.

See Magical Mystery Cure where in Fluttershy retained her ability to speak to animals despite Rainbow having her Cutie Mark, same applied to everyone who had their Cutie Mark switched.

Celestia and Luna have it easier because they are much stronger than everyone else, it's that simple. You can't perform magic if you lack the energy to do so, this is repeatedly established in the show.
Even when Tirek absorbed the magic nearly all citizens in Equestria, which alone would already surpass that of Starswirl and 5 unicorn wizards his feats of power weren't even mountain busting.


View: https://imgur.com/TV4FWOF

Meaning that the moving of the sun and moon is quite useless as a feat for determining anything besides the moving of said celestial objects.
Yeah it's almost like Tirek and Twilight don't want to nuke the fucking planet and are concentrating their power on their target or something? :smh

Again Rarity can cast weather over a town and two fucking mountain ranges but her actual energy attack only affects her target. This isn't anything new, their attacks are concentrated in the same way as Dragon Ball characters.

God what a disingenuous dipshit.
 
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God what a disingenuous dipshit.

Story of me and Rey's life there whenever it comes to GaRbS and the Nasuverse being in the same sentence...
Next to Siriel, GaRbS is one of the most disingenuous motherfuckers in Spacebattles who goes to different sites to peddle absolute nonsense... and no surprise here, the dude doesn't even read, watch or play anything Fate related.

The dude reads CLIFFNOTES and then bases everything off of that alone with no scaling, no actual thought, just going all in. No shit he believe's Gremmy's Meteor is somehow better than Discord being able to move Stars somehow because he probably thinks the MLP Universe is somehow no different than a Reality Marble or some shit(Let's remind ourselves it took FIVE Gremmy's to create a fucking portal to space/a simulation of space).
Like here's the creme' de la creme of GaRbS stupidity:

The dude can't handle that Kinoku Nasu has stated in an interview that Kotomine at his absolute best(In his F/Z self, 10 Command Spells) that he can even defeat Ciel from Tsukihime and that somehow doesn't carry into the Remake... despite it being a LONG standing point that:

1. It was outright stated he's on par with a Dead Apostle using those(Which the Remake has never denied and if anything, it would make more sense because)

2. Command Spells have always been shown to have an INSANE level of Magical Energy(Considering they are able to fill a Servant's Magical Energy pool to max and Servants have absolutely insane levels of Magical energy to rival whole ass Countries literally) so Kotomine's ability would be absolutely enhanced even using ONE, let alone having access to TEN.

3. Just because Ciel has gotten stronger in the Remake does not mean it's some extremely massive boost either(Hell, the Remake still has 20% Arcueid throttle her a bit when they first met) that's impossible for anyone to match.

Yet this dude literally comes in because of one of Pseudo-Servant Kotomine skills... say he's just a "middling Executor" or some shit and thus, that means he's nothing to Ciel now despite the most obvious thing:
That Kotomine is using his OLD MAN FORM AND HAS NO COMMAND SPELLS! :maury

This dude is born in absolute cope whenever he gets asshurt.
 
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