Tbf, FSR Musashi doesn't go "Oh Yes Sexy. Mai name isu Musashi Miyamoto!" and doesn't claim to be an American lol
Tbf, FSR Musashi doesn't go "Oh Yes Sexy. Mai name isu Musashi Miyamoto!" and doesn't claim to be an American lol
So... we are going to forget that Musashi was already a Berserker in FGO and has EX Madness Enhancement and is no different than how she is normally?
Tbf, FSR Musashi doesn't go "Oh Yes Sexy. My name is Musashi Miyamoto!" and doesn't claim to be an American lol
I know man, I just shit post lolShe only did that because she was so embarrassed over her blunder(That she split herself into two selves, the latter has her killer instinct) that she pretended to be Miyamoto Iori to escape from the shame.
That's it, there's no difference between her as a Berserker in SR to her as a Berserker in FGO.
EDIT: That's what actually playing the games will tell you and not just looking for shit to downplay and making shit up.
Alkamus' arguement has always been wrong and rarely ever correct. He utilized only headcanon, and only from time to time it fit with actual canon. Like making assumption is okay and there are times it is necessary, his assumption however are more than necessary degree to uneceessary degree and make it off the mark.
I find it hilarious they have to remove FGO feats including even simple scaling from a character that started in FGO just so they can continue their retarded ass narrative that Fate would be a consistent series without it.
Besides, even if we don't give Musashi shit from FGO because, we can still give her the fact that she still has her "Zero" which literally removes all possibilities but the one she wants and Iori still defeated her.
So... we are going to forget that Musashi was already a Berserker in FGO and has EX Madness Enhancement and is no different than how she is normally?
She's literally no more bloodthirsty in Samurai Remnant as she is in every other one of her appearances... which had her goad everyone into a fight even in situations where it wasn't needed(Like her wanting to fight Billy The Kid to see if she can outdraw him).
...What amps did Musashi gain in FGO that doesn't carry over in Samurai Remnant?! And she was already a Berserker in FGO's Summer Event! Is it the Klironmia? Because that's not even a real amp either. At first, it's basically Musashi is a truly strong Servant and above most Sabers even before the Klironmia and now suddenly, she's now absolute ass to make Iori's win "justifiable" to them.
Holy fucking shit, this is so fucking stupid and hypocritical at the same time! Realize none of this is being levied towards Yoriichi not one iota but having dude try and ignore everything that happens in Samurai Remnant while bitching at the same time it's FGO when he wants to completely ignore ALL statements even if they are supposed to corroborate with the feats in question(But not do the same thing with shit like Transparent World)? Absolute clownshoes.
Neither are as nearly bad as Rumbles though.Spacebattle is trash like comic vine
Alkamus' arguement has always been wrong and rarely ever correct. He utilized only headcanon, and only from time to time it fit with actual canon. Like making assumption is okay and there are times it is necessary, his assumption however are more than necessary degree to uneceessary degree and make it off the mark.
This is why I just instantly assume everything he said are just wrong before even reading, unless someone else can confirm it. And this comment just prove me right.
He talk as if Musashi is nihilistic with no thoughts of her own that the moment she got Bloodthirsty she lost all her abilities.
I mention EX rank Mad Enhancement on her Swimsuit, the same rank as her F/SR and this is what he answer withThe funny part is the losing rational thought from bloodthirst is actually canonical from a Servant... but it's not Musashi(This doesn't even begin to make sense with how Musashi is able to become "Zero" if she can't get a handle on her shit) it's Cu and that's only due to a combination of really wanting EMIYA dead and Celtic Bloodlust getting the better of him.
Otherwise, it's not even just Alkamus who does it but virtually everyone who keeps arguing against Fate never watch shit and only get their points from others who equally downplay it(Like Nursery or Siriel) or those who only got the most cursory glance and then just bitches and moans. Anyone who knows Fate to an even decent degree knows the "power ramp" long existed from the start as I stated before with Nvrsqr's existence(Hell, it started with Witch On The Holy Night with Aoko gaining the Fifth Magic and Shizuki being able to hurt a goddamned Nature Spirit, something practically near the level of a Divine Spirit, if not at that level) and Nasu basically all but pointed out that Tsukihime's and Fate's powerlevels are not all that different(2 Servants would be an issue for 30% Arcueid while Gilgamesh can kick her ass due to being able to overpower her special defense, Tohno and Shirou would both end up dead in their fight).
And like every other series, the power levels expanded because surprise, surprise, Nasu and Takeuchi wanted to go further which is why Fate/Extra is a thing. It's just hilarious they want to go Feats > Statements but only apply it to Fate wholeheartedly while doing exactly what we do for Demon Slayer(or MHA for the other thread) and use Statements when they extrapolate with the feats and think they are being slick. Nothing makes me bust a gut harder than Nursery believing that Shigaraki can just expel Hydra Venom from his body when all Nasu did... was just pull how Hydra Venom actually works in myth and put it into his series: aka, no, that shit will be stuck in Shigaraki and he will die a horrific death literally melting to death just having the fumes in his system, let alone the real shit while being in absolutely AGONIZING PAIN(To the point the Immortal Chiron literally killed himself because the pain was too much to bare)
EX is not innately a ranking of superiority, its a ranking of something being unscalable. Usually because of being too great but also potentially being too different to register properly. Musashi herself has an example of this in her ex battle con.
FSN: Excalibur Is meaningfully hampered enough by Rho Aias that it loses to Bellerphon. The same Phon Excalibur handily bests on a vastly worst mana supply then a grail. (For reference. Aias's second best feat is stopping gay bulge.) FGO would have you believe that either Salter is a delusional lunatic or that morgan can blow up Bennu meteor (Not vaporize it though. That's what Edymiya was for.)
I mention EX rank Mad Enhancement on her Swimsuit, the same rank as her F/SR and this is what he answer with
He also say this wtf? What does this mean? Is he saying Morgan can't blow up meteor and Artoria can't destroy the meteor?
Here, Gae Bolg's power distorts space as Cu readies to throw it. Here, Cu throws Gae Bolg at EMIYA. Here, Exposition on Gae Bolg's function as the thrown spear. Here, Cu throws Gae Bolg by using all his magical energy. Here, Gae Bolg vs Rho Aias starts. Here, Rho Aias exposition. Here, thrown Gae Bolg easily pierces through 6 of Rho Aias' layers. Here, EMIYA puts his "all his magical energy" into Rho Aias' last layer. Here, EMIYA has wounds all over his body from the clash. Here, Rho Aias was entirely pierced, EMIYA muses Cu's thrown Gae Bolg surpasses the original Gungir. Here, Cu's pissed off Rho Aias was able to block his strongest attack. Here, EMIYA notes accomplishing this feat cost him most of his magical energy, destroyed one of his arms, and Rho Aias was still shattered.
Here, the magic energy of Bellerophon makes the magic of her Bloodfort feel small by comparison. Here, a discussion about Bellerophon, Artoria notes her magic resistance/armor nullifies all but sorcery or fantastic races with divinity (after all, divine mysteries are nullified by stronger ones). Here, Artoria struggles to believe a servant could survive a direct blow from Bellerophon (she's wrong by feats, but her doubt is notable of its power). Here, an A+ level Noble Phantasm like Bellerophon is approaching the level of sorcery. Here, Medusa's Bellerophon is the second most powerful Noble Phantasm of the Servants summoned during the 5th Holy Grail War (powerful enough Shirou's convinced it can oppose Excalibur).
Honestly, I tend to hate HFN a LOT more than I like HFY.
I just want humans and human forces to look as relatively competent as they should, especiallys(but not only) in the case of real life humans.
By competent you mean the military able to curbstomp otherwise more advanced adversary for little to no reason I guess. Like how USA military able to defeat Decepticons robots in Bayformers
That or RL earth able to stand against 40k Orks.Shit, you made me remember that Spacebattles has an insane Real Life Military fetish to the point they believe they could defeat X and Y Wings from Star Wars unironically amongst many other ludicrous claims.
That doesn't even begin to make sense...
Servant Rankings aren't as "pointless" as he makes them out to be(The problem is that Nasu implied but only truly stated that not all Servant Saint Graphs are created equal and thus, Cursed Arm Hassan's Saint Graph is not the same as Sanzang's nor is Artoria's Saint Graph the same as Jason's) but to pretend that Servant stats and rankings don't matter to the point they can flippantly change not just between Classes but literally between having a Swimsuit or not is asinine to the nth degree.
Servants literally tweak their Spirit Origins to switch different Classes as we know in FGO but that doesn't fully change what they have access to.
EDIT: Hell, what completely annihilates Alkamus's argument? That Musashi in Samurai Remnant's moveset explicitly uses both of her abilities in both Saber AND Berserker movesets explicitly from FGO itself. Don't believe me? Go and look at her moveset in Samurai Remnant and go look at her Animations in FGO, there is virtually NO DIFFERENCE.
Ah yes, Rho Aias, the Shield that blocked Durandiana that was able to block Lostbelt Artemis' Planet Destroying Laser...
Even if degraded one Rank below like Archer's would still be more than enough to offset enough of Excalibur Morgan that Belleophron can take her.
Secondly, Alakmus is doing insane gymnastics to prove that "Nasu stuff makes no sense" but intentionally removing context from all of that as for one that "Meteor" even acting outside of Moriarty's plot was going to destroy the entire Singularity and the Earth itself:
Fate/Grand Order Feats - Unlimited Lost Works and Excalibur Morgan vs 101955 Bennu
Final Tally Model 1 Bennu Yield Range (based on Chixulub Impact something or other) = 310.707 teratons to 1.386 petatons Bennu Speed (02/01/1999) = 1,755,281,683 m/s Model 2 Bennu Yield (09/11/1999) = 28.8 petatons Bennu Yield (09/22/1999) =...onelastforum.com
Gae Bolg was also stated by EMIYA himself to be on the level of Gungnir, if not higher than that(Which is why it's so damn strong considering how legendary it is under Cu to the point it's Strike is virtually an Authority despite Cu not being a Divine Spirit):
vs Rho Aias
and finally, Belleophron is stated to be the 2nd strongest Noble Phantasm even in comparison to thrown Gae Bolg:
So none of these comparison's work if you, I don't know, read the story or did some research. There has been a constant reason why everyone states the Fifth Holy Grail War was bullshit stacked with powerful Servants... because it WAS.
Trying to tie feats in that they look "less impressive than they are" doesn't even work for Fate because even looking at them in the fashion Nasu wants you to do so would easily get you Continental and above and Relativistic real goddamned fast even in F/SN's VN, let alone the Anime.
FSR Musashi is literally just Summer Musashi. Like she even uses that dumb five part laser beam thing. Being a Rogue apparently weakens her Saint Graph to some extent, but it's hardly crippling and saying she doesn't scale to FGO doesn't make much sense when it's literally the same character
1.
Bloodthirsty
Mental state of absolute nothingness.
Pick one. If your bloodthirsty you by default have something.
Andy folds the nigga like an omelette
niggas on tiktok think Lancer can beat Andy because he has the fucking spear
Andy has but what ability masterblack?
hes UndeadAndy has but what ability masterblack?
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