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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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I was checking DnD vs Servant threads and I got this

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Also can someone refresh my memory? I have a vague memory of seeing a feat of...Who was it? Charlotte or was it Holmes? A feat of a low rank STR Servant is fine after a building collapsed on them or smthg? I don't really remember. Or was it something else?
 
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Lel, that's such a bad faith plain lie.

Not to mention that he doesn't realize that "non-knight " classes include Berserkers , Rulers and what have you but he's probably thinking about the squishiest classes and the absolute squishiest members of said classes.

Anyway, when you have Servants like Martha who have D rank strength who can stop trains or E rank Strength Servants like Angry Manjew who can block strikes from B rank Strength people without having their arms blown off across the street, there's really no need to go further into this idiocy.

Peak human. How would he even make this assertion anyway ? Cause Nasuverse humans that can fight are blatantly Superhuman.

And in the rare instances where they're not and they interact with Servants, you get this :

 
You guys can correct me if I am wrong since I don't follow all Spiderman issue but aint Spidey supposed to be super strong physically? Even amongst the Marvel characters? Like obviously he is not physically as strong as Hulk or maybe Thor but I think people are saying he is physically really strong.

The comment make it as if he is not that strong.
 
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This aint even a case of "Oh you gotta read all the VNs and the mangas and play all of FGO" to get it, you can just watch one of the anime, see them do crazy shit like blow holes into buildings, nuke forests, and kill a pilot inside a jet just by turning it, and you can clearly tell these dudes are superhuman as shit

D&D characters squash Servants anyway but to say the latter gets oneshotted by guys like Steve and Peter and only cap out as peak human is just plain wrong
 
You guys can correct me if I am wrong since I don't follow all Spiderman issue but aint Spidey supposed to be super strong physically? Even amongst the Marvel characters? Like obviously he is not physically as strong as Hulk or maybe Thor but I think people are saying he is physically really strong.

The comment make it as if he is not that strong.
“Officially” he can’t lift more than 10 tons though his actual feats say otherwise
 
Not sure about TikTok since I’ll never step foot in there even if it was the last social media on Earth but Redditers sure love wanking Jump Force.

Plebes there arguing for “Outerversal Deku” off that trash ass game

:heston
 
Not at all. Based on the cutscenes, Raiden could regularly match Armstrong in a grappling contest very well showing that in strength they were fairly equal. The problem was Armstrong’s nanomachines son. They made Armstrong too tough to harm while Raiden would eventually be worn down from enough damage and wearing himself out trying to harm him.
The gap is not as big as I thought after rewatching the fight, but Armstrong still looks stronger to me. Prior to Sam's sword the most he was being moved from punches was a few feet, while he was knocking Raiden all around repeatedly, punching him through Excelsus, and overpowering him in grappling at a few points. He still looks a bit stronger albeit not to a huge degree as I'd misremembered.
 
Not sure about TikTok since I’ll never step foot in there even if it was the last social media on Earth but Redditers sure love wanking Jump Force.

Plebes there arguing for “Outerversal Deku” off that trash ass game

:heston
Someone even unironically tried to posit Jumpforce as a serious candidate for the strongest game-verse ever and tried to imply it in the same sentence as TES and SMT on the r/powerscaling subreddit.

Nevermind people wanking Jumpforce Goku to outerversal and talking shit about how he's above all of Marvel and shit because "muh shonen jump x marvel collaboration lol".
 
The gap is not as big as I thought after rewatching the fight, but Armstrong still looks stronger to me. Prior to Sam's sword the most he was being moved from punches was a few feet, while he was knocking Raiden all around repeatedly, punching him through Excelsus, and overpowering him in grappling at a few points. He still looks a bit stronger albeit not to a huge degree as I'd misremembered.
The only times those happened were when Armstrong took him by surpise. Raiden could do the same and send him flying when he took him by surprise too such as with his fake surrender

We’re not talking toughness here, Armstrong was blatantly above Raiden in that regard until Sam’s Muramasa evened the playing field, but strength. The time Raiden was overpowered was being taken by surprise like when Armstrong first charges him or when Armstrong capitalizes on his hardening like when they butt heads which left Raiden dazed and allowed Armstrong to win their grapple, which before they were about even.
 

Are you sure about that? What has Musashi done, (in F/SR because FGO feats aren't allowed), that can match/surpass this shit

I find it hilarious they have to remove FGO feats including even simple scaling from a character that started in FGO just so they can continue their retarded ass narrative that Fate would be a consistent series without it.

Besides, even if we don't give Musashi shit from FGO because, we can still give her the fact that she still has her "Zero" which literally removes all possibilities but the one she wants and Iori still defeated her.


I think being bloodthirsty would indeed be a very severe issue for a swordsman whose entire schtick is total and complete emptiness.

So... we are going to forget that Musashi was already a Berserker in FGO and has EX Madness Enhancement and is no different than how she is normally?

Mad Enhancement: EX

She got real weird for "reasons". (Got turned into a Celestial Demon in the Grail Rice Incident).

She's literally no more bloodthirsty in Samurai Remnant as she is in every other one of her appearances... which had her goad everyone into a fight even in situations where it wasn't needed(Like her wanting to fight Billy The Kid to see if she can outdraw him).

She only gains two amps to her stats and even if it was more extreme. Fate's parameters are completely arbitrary and can mean anything so if FSR Musashi is weaker than FGO via feats... The zerker class being why seems like a pretty solid argument to me. Since it is the primary difference between the two.

...What amps did Musashi gain in FGO that doesn't carry over in Samurai Remnant?! And she was already a Berserker in FGO's Summer Event! Is it the Klironmia? Because that's not even a real amp either. At first, it's basically Musashi is a truly strong Servant and above most Sabers even before the Klironmia and now suddenly, she's now absolute ass to make Iori's win "justifiable" to them.

Feats > statements. Is FSR on the level of FSN or FGO? Because that's the difference between outscaling and getting bonk'd.

Holy fucking shit, this is so fucking stupid and hypocritical at the same time! Realize none of this is being levied towards Yoriichi not one iota but having dude try and ignore everything that happens in Samurai Remnant while bitching at the same time it's FGO when he wants to completely ignore ALL statements even if they are supposed to corroborate with the feats in question(But not do the same thing with shit like Transparent World)? Absolute clownshoes.
 
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