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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Base Aizen vs Yoruichi
Yoruichi has access to everything other than cat form. Aizen can use his zan, but can't use KS.
www.fanverse.org Base Aizen? Being able to USE any Kido before she blitzes the shit out of him?
Being able to dodge a stronger version of Aizen's attack while actively slowed down by the gauntlets she was wearing.Would you be so kind to present the feats?
How anyone can read that fight and somehow think Base Aizen wins against any of the Exiles is beyond me.
haIt absolutely IS one-sided and NO, Aizen can't win but anything but KS, which he doesn't have here.
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The ES downplaying squad jumping in the thread
I mean, go back and read my earlier post of why what he's doing(As well as the entire Overlord crew) is garbage:
TL;DR: They are using the "Appealing To Ignorance" fallacy to pretend you can't prove it's something Cu Alter does... despite the story itself telling you what Cu Alter does. The problem with that though is that it's an inherent fallacy that ceases to work when you explicitly say things like that without any lack of research aka, the Absence of Evidence is not the Evidence of Absence.
i.e. What he and the entire Overlord side(And hell, what SB tends to do in general) wants to do while hilariously not proving why anything Ainz should do should work and also Appealing To Ignorance.
as i read again some sb vs threads, that reaching for jjk in sb, by competing with chars way above their weight class, is something, that not even jordan in the space jam movie, couldnt stretch/reach, sb, went into further levels than that
Seeing their VS. matchup with Kagurabachi characters vs. DS Demons is some real ass other shit
Pure Fandumb energy right there "Squad Zero's combined strength is higher than Gotei 13's"
Squad Zero members have a seal that allows them to activate Bankai only when one member remains, but the Gotei 13 has no such restriction. Isn't this confirmation that a single member of Squad Zero is stronger than the combined strength of all 13 Captains, if all Captains are allowed to use...
www.fanverse.org BossKitten is correct, the Gotei 13 did NOT have cleaner wins over the Squad 0 by any metric...
Mayuri won only because of him getting DAMN lucky Pernida decided to go and eat Nemu and didn't eat her brain specifically and died to cancer cell overload, otherwise Mayuri would be dead.
Shunsui won because of literal plot weapon by Nanao.
Askin was dumpstering everyone including Kisuke and won by Grimmjow stabbing him in the back unawares(While it was set up by Kisuke, it was the same issue as before) and they would have died by Askin's suicide attack if it wasn't for Neliel saving them from the brink.
And they didn't even defeat Gerard, Yhwach had to do that for them. Same with Uryu and Haschwalth.
I have no idea why people are shitting on Squad Zero when Senjumaru alone dumpstered them all at full power and Uryu is only going to be active and win because we KNOW he's basically special as fuck.
NINETEEN. PAGES! And it's still the same ol' shit! And it's even more ridiculous they act like Alcides and the entire Fate franchise has to prove itself to Overlord, a series that taken at face value would have Ainz get slaughtered by any character in Demon Slayer.
Even the quote is wrong as it's never specified to be their COMBINED strength that surpasses the Gotei, rather that Division 0 is stronger than the Gotei 13 COMBINED, full stop."Squad Zero's combined strength is higher than Gotei 13's"
Squad Zero members have a seal that allows them to activate Bankai only when one member remains, but the Gotei 13 has no such restriction. Isn't this confirmation that a single member of Squad Zero is stronger than the combined strength of all 13 Captains, if all Captains are allowed to use...
BossKitten is correct, the Gotei 13 did NOT have cleaner wins over the Squad 0 by any metric...
Mayuri won only because of him getting DAMN lucky Pernida decided to go and eat Nemu and didn't eat her brain specifically and died to cancer cell overload, otherwise Mayuri would be dead.
Shunsui won because of literal plot weapon by Nanao.
Askin was dumpstering everyone including Kisuke and won by Grimmjow stabbing him in the back unawares(While it was set up by Kisuke, it was the same issue as before) and they would have died by Askin's suicide attack if it wasn't for Neliel saving them from the brink.
And they didn't even defeat Gerard, Yhwach had to do that for them. Same with Uryu and Haschwalth.
I have no idea why people are shitting on Squad Zero when Senjumaru alone dumpstered them all at full power and Uryu is only going to be active and win because we KNOW he's basically special as fuck.
Hogyoku Aizen vs Shikai Yamamoto , Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra and RG Bankai Byakuya
Those 3 characters are a team and fight various versions of Hogyoku Aizen.... Restrictions: Kyoka Suigetsu Location: PAKISTAN Win: By forcing Aizen to evolve....Aizens wins by killing them all Round 1: Chrysalis Aizen Round 2: Mullet Aizen Round 3: Butterfly Aizen Round 4: Monster Aizen...
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It's almost like him being transcendent in these forms has NEVER meant that he's completely untouchable by them. For fuck's sake we literally see the Exiles push him to Mullet form and then Gin push him to Butterfly form.
But you know acknowledging that would THEN lead to the obvious conclusion that the unsealed RG members just SHIT on him full stop.
the guy who made this thread was higher than the gotei 13 I can tell you that much"Squad Zero's combined strength is higher than Gotei 13's"
Squad Zero members have a seal that allows them to activate Bankai only when one member remains, but the Gotei 13 has no such restriction. Isn't this confirmation that a single member of Squad Zero is stronger than the combined strength of all 13 Captains, if all Captains are allowed to use...
BossKitten is correct, the Gotei 13 did NOT have cleaner wins over the Squad 0 by any metric...
Mayuri won only because of him getting DAMN lucky Pernida decided to go and eat Nemu and didn't eat her brain specifically and died to cancer cell overload, otherwise Mayuri would be dead.
Shunsui won because of literal plot weapon by Nanao.
Askin was dumpstering everyone including Kisuke and won by Grimmjow stabbing him in the back unawares(While it was set up by Kisuke, it was the same issue as before) and they would have died by Askin's suicide attack if it wasn't for Neliel saving them from the brink.
And they didn't even defeat Gerard, Yhwach had to do that for them. Same with Uryu and Haschwalth.
I have no idea why people are shitting on Squad Zero when Senjumaru alone dumpstered them all at full power and Uryu is only going to be active and win because we KNOW he's basically special as fuck.
Genuinely no comment on this
Can Halibel be scaled to Ayon?
After the time skip. Also, this should affect the likes of Starrk and Baraggan, based on novel powerscaling at least.
www.fanverse.org Almost, it's actually:
FB Shikai Ichigo >>>>>> Mastered Fullbring Ichigo >>>>>> 2nd Stage Fullbring Ichigo >/=/< HM Ichigo
R1 Ulquiorra? FB Shikai Ichigo is beating ANY Espada 1v1.
WRONG, VS Quilge was barely overpowering Ichigo at all and only managed a slight cut on his head while Ichigo wasn't concerned in the slightest. He no-sold Getsuga because Blut Vene is cheap but the actual power gap wasn't that big at all.
That is correct for a change.
No she doesn't, she literally survived an energy attack of some kind from Mustache and was dealt with personally by him, when he normally leaves shit to his subordinates unless he has reason to act himself.
Yet MY takes are the stupid ones right?
Sure Harribel maintained control of a world where authority is dictated by power level without getting any stronger and Harribel's minions can create a being stronger than Harribel, yet they somehow remain her minions despite what I just said.
Even if she had NO feats at all, it is completely fucking asinine to pretend Allon can even possibly be stronger than her, that legitimately doesn't make ANY sense in or out of universe.
Uh, Rin has a bunch of those gems saved up because unlike what SB loves to think, Rin isn't an idiot who only comes in with a small amount of gems for her opponents(Even against Medea, she explicitly faked her out purposefully to get her into close range) and all of those are beyond anything Ainz has ever done.
What does this MEAN?! What the fuck does ANY OF THIS MEAN?!
This is Fallen Down by the Manga's take:
This is fucking pathetic because if it's just like the Anime, it was already in the destroyed whole where TGOALID did it's business at and Fallen Down barely does jack and of shit.
What does being Level 100 mean in strength considering Ainz and Shaltear aren't doing anything remotely close to a "Country Tier" being would do! And how is Ainz hypersonic? Because of some random ass passage where he created a Sonic Boom falling over? or did people forget that The New World somehow has literal magic physics?
HOW IS AINZ A POOR MATCHUP FOR HERACLES WHEN AINZ IS FAR TOO SLOW TO DO ANYTHING BEFORE HERACLES BREAKS HIM IN TWO?! Flight doesn't mean shit when Heracles can literally jump good on multiple occasions.
OF COURSE.
No, he doesn't. All he has to do is park his ass outside and spam volleys of Arrows till it's all gone, mission accomplished.
None of you guys established that at all, NONE OF YOU! All you tried to state is that Nazarick can shut off it's teleporters and is divided by "dimensions" and none of that works when they got Raided in the past and if it was that good, why didn't they shut them off against them?! Oh, but let's just forget that Nasuverse has shit that can breach basic ass Dimensional Barriers like that too!
What's worse is that someone even pointed out a few posts after this that Ainz's Time Stop isn't even that fast by it's own word!
So Gazef, someone who hasn't shown anything that puts him above even BoS Shirou is able to literally raise his sword high before Ainz was able to think and use Time Stop... but we are suddenly supposed to believe it will work on Heracles? Let alone Alcides?! GTFOH.
funny how this only matters for series outside the agenda HMMMMMthey're still arguing a lack of environmental damage to downplay Rin's gems?
they're still arguing a lack of environmental damage to downplay Rin's gems?
Because it's how SB does things. They don't go by what is a theoretical maximum, they try and go by what's stated PRECISELY even if it makes no sense and then blame it on the creator rather than on themselves for not understanding it's not meant to be a maximum.
Shirou states the Gems Rin used against Heracles is enough to blow down a mansion but it was never stated that was ever it's max or ignores what TYPE of Mansion Shirou means(Which again shows SB's lack of imagination as some Mansions are absolutely GIGANTIC and that even goes for the Mansions in F/SN which are bigger than most Japanese Equivalents).
It's the same shit with the speed debates when again, it's trying to take what is said and apply it to the max even when the narrative never goes with that point like this:
They unironically act like 400KMPH is the max when the narration explicitly states not only is the speedometer broken, but the speed has long since passed 400KMPH which again makes trying to only use the max disingenuous but also completely retarded.
If they was being honest, I wouldn't even be in the situation.
Fallen Down, the first one anyway which is the one pictured there, happened before TGOALID was ever used which in itself does nothing destruction wise either.
What does this MEAN?! What the fuck does ANY OF THIS MEAN?!
This is Fallen Down by the Manga's take:
This is fucking pathetic because if it's just like the Anime, it was already in the destroyed whole where TGOALID did it's business at and Fallen Down barely does jack and of shit.
Maybe but what does that matter when Alcides, in character, will assassinate them from far away before any of the featless horde did anything?
It is... he just doesn't need it here.
If Time Stop was ever that effective, then why in the holy land of fuck does Ainz does Time Stop in front of his targets?! None of this makes sense!
Considering he stole Gugulanna's Divine Core and literally stole From Hell which is more than just a simple transformation and RP stealing something includes him stealing it from people's Saint Graphs with no chance of recovery? I think he can steal spells, thank you.
Yeah because they are immune to all kinds of Time Stop apparently... NLF if I ever heard one...
You are the one saying that Ainz will somehow Time Stop Alcides through fucking dimensions(Which you love acting as if Ainz can act through them or not while Alcides can't get through to him or not) meaning that he will jump into this battle at random while ignoring Alcides is not going to jump into a fight on Nazarick's terms, he's doing it on his terms which means Nazarick gets reduced to rubble and he kills the stragglers.
Considering Rhongomyniad's Barriers are Dimensional in nature and Ozymandias was able to break them down, you can actually say Alcides can do the same thing... and again as I said before, didn't stop the Raiding Party from getting through.
"Able to critically wound Gugulanna in which a single step can destroy a whole ass Singularity and the actual country of Connacht at once... can't somehow destroy something the size of a small city".
Wow, that's some truly compelling evidence you got there...
My dude, you and your dudes are the only ones who believe that and you still haven't proven shit at all...
And they come for him while he's 20 KM away? Yeah because all of those featless beings are going to matter so well against someone who can consistently fire arrows that go well past the speed of lightning casually... meanwhile he has the speed and reflexes to match that wholeheartedly.
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