• We're looking for artists. Direct message Dr. Watson for more info!

Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

Status
Not open for further replies.
Astaro said:
Hence a stalemate. Neither can kill the other unless it can be argued Iceman outdoes the Big Bang or even a black hole
Click to expand...
I mean
Its technically up to whoevers debating for them to show that she could create an enviroment around her to survive reality freezing over continuously. Big Bangs only last for an insanly short time and as far as Im aware black holes dont warp reality.

I feel bad for Kakine. He can't even approach the fight
:heston
 
shiny said:
By the way. They are now starting to complain that the calculations are wrong.
Click to expand...

Ah yes, the same people who have shown that they do not add in Energy, Mass, Velocity or any of the actual important shit in calculations of explosive velocity... is complaining that the calculations are wrong.

:jordangif

Again, "Laws of Physics and Science based Versus Forum" guys:risitas
 
Masterblack06 said:
I mean
Its technically up to whoevers debating for them to show that she could create an enviroment around her to survive reality freezing over continuously. Big Bangs only last for an insanly short time and as far as Im aware black holes dont warp reality.

I feel bad for Kakine. He can't even approach the fight
:heston
Click to expand...
Literally all Esper powers are changing reality around themselves at the quantum level for their powers to work and a Black Hole where the inside of time stands still, shows she can do so even in an environment where time stops.

Kakine can literally be the target for both of themselves to be protected and can eventually copy and produce an army of Beginning Child’s with the exact same power
 
i never ever saw a good calc debunk in SB, they just cry in others subforum about how ''calcs and scans are toxic''
 
Masterblack06 said:
I mean
Its technically up to whoevers debating for them to show that she could create an enviroment around her to survive reality freezing over continuously. Big Bangs only last for an insanly short time and as far as Im aware black holes dont warp reality.

I feel bad for Kakine. He can't even approach the fight
:heston
Click to expand...
"Nah, I'd become unfreezable."
 
Tablos said:
i never ever saw a good calc debunk in SB, they just cry in others subforum about how ''calcs and scans are toxic''
Click to expand...

That's actually why they blocked other forum's use of scans and calcs because they was consistently schooled in it that they made that rule to stop getting destroyed by them.

I already pointed out how horrible their Cinder Fall RWBY Calc was myself as they have no idea how to actually pixel scale, how to actually compare materials(They legit believed what Cinder Fall used her fire on... was MARBLE because the floor didn't look like Steel :heston ) which somehow had her at 1/3rd of the heat levels of an Atomic Bomb.:risigif

And they believe that calc is valid!

200w.gif


It's hilarious to me that plenty of VSB calcs aren't the best... but they are genuinely LEAGUES better than any Spacebattles Calc I have ever witnessed.
 
Astaro said:
Literally all Esper powers are changing reality around themselves at the quantum level for their powers to work and a Black Hole where the inside of time stands still, shows she can do so even in an environment where time stops.

Kakine can literally be the target for both of themselves to be protected and can eventually copy and produce an army of Beginning Child’s with the exact same power
Click to expand...
Thats gonna be the issue though
They need reality to change
Iceman is going to be preventing that change. Also the time stopping of a black hole is only to outside observers. otherwise nothing would ever be consumed by them.

So no shes not resistant to time stopping or anything of the sort
 
Masterblack06 said:
Thats gonna be the issue though
They need reality to change
Iceman is going to be preventing that change. Also the time stopping of a black hole is only to outside observers. otherwise nothing would ever be consumed by them.

So no shes not resistant to time stopping or anything of the sort
Click to expand...
And why does he take precedence over them changing reality?

And yes she does because the novels say she can use her powers even within a black hole, an environment where time is literally frozen

Or the Big Bang, the literal start of space and time
 
Astaro said:
And why does he take precedence over them changing reality?
Click to expand...
Better feats of course
Astaro said:
And yes she does because the novels say she can use her powers even within a black hole, an environment where time is literally frozen
Click to expand...
My brother in christ. Black Hole do not stop time, thats a scientific fact. If time is stopping in a black hole then black holes cannot absorb matter because everything would be stuck at the event horizon.
Astaro said:
Or the Big Bang, the literal start of space and time
Click to expand...
You mean the event that lasts for 0.00000000000000000000000000000001 of a second? That event?
 
Also there are 2 theories that might go against the whole
"space and time" started with the big bang

So that might be out the window too
 
Masterblack06 said:
Better feats of course

My brother in christ. Black Hole do not stop time, thats a scientific fact. If time is stopping in a black hole then black holes cannot absorb matter because everything would be stuck at the event horizon.

You mean the event that lasts for 0.00000000000000000000000000000001 of a second? That event?
Click to expand...
I’ve yet to see anything of Iceman surviving the Big Bang or even a Black hole

Hence why I said inside a black hole. Past the Event Horizon

Why Time Slows Down Near a Black Hole: The Physics Explained – Profound Physics

profoundphysics.com profoundphysics.com
 
But yeah I'm off to go play some fallout, you gentlemen take care and behave yourselves
 
Masterblack06 said:
Shit son you just said inside a black hole. thats why I was lost.

I was about to ask you if you meant the absolute center of it cause thats where shit gets weird

Even then freezing reality is a better feat that stopping just time. and iceman can freeze both anyway so its a moot point
Click to expand...
I’ve been saying inside a black hole each time and the book literally specifies center of a black hole.

If the conditions were right, she could survive being thrown onto the moon or Mars. In fact, she could survive being thrown into the center of a black hole or the Big Bang without issue. After all, her power would remake the area around her into the environment needed to survive.
Click to expand...

“Freezing reality” doesn’t tell me anything against a reality warper using their powers in an environment where time has stopped anyway
 
Last edited:

Regardless of if they can pierce or not?
Click to expand...

Yes, because that's how Noble Phantasms work...

We literally see him walk out of Malevolent Shrine still in one piece with narration, not Sukuna, being what states his adaptation to slashes
Click to expand...

Yes because Sukuna slashed him all day with Dismantle/Cleave and all Malevolent Shrine is just an amped Dismantle/Cleave... why do SB love overestimating Mahoraga and it's terrible as shit Adaptation?

Noble Phantasms aren't just Blades and nothing shows that Mahoraga can adapt to Blades as a concept in his Adaptations, only what is consistently hitting him(And even that's not true as it took a bit to adapt to Infinity, then to Red and then to Gojo's punches and even the last one was just becoming tougher)
 

Not... really? You're far better off talking about there being NPs that are powerful enough to destroy Mahoraga, because almost every NP with an effect like the ones you just listed are trash against it. None of them would be able to completely destroy it, so it would overcome their effects in short order.
Click to expand...

Siriel... you dumb fuck, you are not explaining HOW Anti-Regen Noble Phantasms and otherwise is terrible against Mahoraga's Adaptation...
You saying so isn't a debate tactic, especially when we know Avalon has shown the exact same level of regen that Mahoraga has shown in the Anime against Cleave/Dismantle/Malevolent Shrine and Gae Bolg's Curse took it HOURS to go through. I swear, they just believe that Mahoraga can adapt past an Authority because he adapted towards Limitless for a bit :heston

Are you claiming Gilgamesh doesn't have an extensive track record of misjudging his opponents and getting caught off-guard, fairly frequently resulting in his death?
Click to expand...

He actually doesn't, that's complete fanon and you know it.

I'm hoping you aren't making that claim, but if you want to please do because it's hilariously easy to disprove.
Click to expand...

It's not because if all you bring up is F/SN, then you just proved the man's point. Gilgamesh tends to use SNI to only scout out his opponents once and then restrains it but the number of times he lost because of that restraint can hilariously be counted on one hand(And most of those are in F/SN). Outside of the Fate/Zero Accel Event(Which explicitly got him jumped by a literal force of Servants at the last second), I don't remember Gilgamesh dead ass losing a fight because of him "underestimating" opponents outside of F/SN.

Tablos said:
Gilgamesh unnamed NPs are Mountain busting , he one shot Sukuna since he almost die to a CB attack
Click to expand...

Actually, considering Gilgamesh is able to hurt Jurassic Form Tiamat with Gate of Babylon and have her fall off the hill she's on, Mountain Busting is hilariously the WEAKEST thing you can hand Gilgamesh there.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top