When you have nothing of value in your post, I respond accordinglySee, this is why you lose every argument you start here. You bring shit up, someone tells you it doesn't work that way and why, and then you prance away from the burning wreckage of your argument declaring yourself the victor
I mean, it's the internet, you do you, but declaring yourself the winner of a debate when you've done nothing but convince everyone listening to your argument that you don't actually have an argument beyond "I want it to work this way" is perhaps a mite lacking in self-awareness
Why are you bringing up his low showing as if that shits the normal?Iceman struggles with dealing with a falling building or getting winded making a single ice golem smaller than a house.
Can’t dismiss those feats just because we don’t like them either
If you say soI read the first 30 odd books, nothing I saw changed my opinion
Iceman struggles with dealing with a falling building or getting winded making a single ice golem smaller than a house.
Can’t dismiss those feats just because we don’t like them either
When you have nothing of value in your post, I respond accordingly
Which is again, messing with reality. Which I’ve argued is nothing special.This isnt the point of that part of the post but okay
What are you even talking about. Neither him freezing reality and him freezing space-time are not forms of flowery language in any sense of the word. I havent treated it as anything other than what it is.
Because that’s exactly what Bobby did in the scan and freezing time won’t matter because Beginning Child can use her powers in an environment (center of a black hole) where time doesn’t flow.Considering you keep saying that all espers warp reality at a quantum level, you've been trying to equate what they do to what Bobby did.
Cell was his own statement, this is the author themselves clearly explaining how a character’s power works and the extent of which they can survive with it.No, not it’s not a feat. You need to actually be doing something. I dont and never have cared who states what when it comes to what a character can do. It’s why I hate it when people go "Well cell said he could blow up the solar system" as a feat.
It’s not about me, thats just how Hax works in the OBD. Hax doesnt care about biggatons, Hax has level and thats about it
You haven’t posted a single feat Iceman’s done on their own that outdoes the Big Bang, just argue lol freezing reality against a character that changes reality anyway.You haven't shown a single feat or shred of evidence to even put them on Bobbys level
And it’s not enough,The OP has them going all out at max power. I don't even need to post the feat for bobby since you've seen it yourself
Read above. You’re not going to get an actual feat of her doing that stuff because Bio Hacked never actually presented itself a situation where she ended up in a Black Hole or before the universe began. Doesn’t mean we just ignore the narrator explaining the mechanics behind their abilityBut your unable to post even a single feat for this character doing or resisting anything on this level outside of "narration"
It’s the pointlessness of arguing a character being many times stronger then their own feats demonstrate because the one or two times they hurt a character whole tiers above them.Why are you bringing up his low showing as if that shits the normal?
Because your not debating, just shit flingingIf the way the OBD operates as well as the basic goals of debating don't hold value to you, why are you here on the OBD, debating?
Because your not debating, just shit flinging
Okay and thats your opinion which means nothing about the actual debate. Hell I could think reality warping is the strongest thing in fiction and it would mean just as littleWhich is again, messing with reality. Which I’ve argued is nothing special.
You keep saying this, this isnt a feat. Show her actually doing it.Because that’s exactly what Bobby did in the scan and freezing time won’t matter because Beginning Child can use her powers in an environment (center of a black hole) where time doesn’t flow.
This is an author stating how a characters powers work and then never showing them actually doing it. They don't have feats.Cell was his own statement, this is the author themselves clearly explaining how a character’s power works and the extent of which they can survive with it.
You haven't posted a single feat of her ACTUALLY doing anything with a big bang or black hole. You've just been arguing that "well the narrator says it, therefore it must be true"You haven’t posted a single feat Iceman’s done on their own that outdoes the Big Bang, just argue lol freezing reality against a character that changes reality anyway.
Your right they arent enough to beat Bobby.And it’s not enough
What are you even talking about? We are using their high ends, the OP has them going all out. it doesnt matter if its an outlier because we are using them at their max potential. You can not like it all you want, take it up with the OP of that thread but to then do the reverse and downplay because "he got winded making ice golems"? Thats one of the silliest takes ive seen from you in a long time. Your normally more level headed than thisIt’s the pointlessness of arguing a character being many times stronger then their own feats demonstrate because the one or two times they hurt a character whole tiers above them.
Also fuck me do I get proven more right about how yall niggas act with To Aru every god damn day.
You guys will say almost anything to try and have them not lose a fight.
At least Paxton will admit when something loses but god damn Astaro this shits sad
Reality warping between two character that do so in an identical manner being nothing special isn’t an opinion, it’s just a fact.Okay and thats your opinion which means nothing about the actual debate. Hell I could think reality warping is the strongest thing in fiction and it would mean just as little
She hasn’t but this is such a copout unless you can prove it’s contradicted, I’m not going to bother with this argument.You keep saying this, this isnt a feat. Show her actually doing it.
You got Accelerator being able to use his powers on even multiversal attacks so long as he knows the vector at work or shake up an entire galaxy, you got Holistic Espers like Kimi who make black holes across random locations in the universe. Beginning Child being able to protect themselves in a black hole or the Big Bang is hardly that big of a stretch.This is an author stating how a characters powers work and then never showing them actually doing it. They don't have feats.
read above.You haven't posted a single feat of her ACTUALLY doing anything with a big bang or black hole. You've just been arguing that "well the narrator says it, therefore it must be true"
Show me his best high end feat he’s done on his own. That doesn’t involve beating an obviously jobbing opponent so we don’t seriously argue Herald level Spider-Man from beating up FirelordYour right they arent enough to beat Bobby.
What are you even talking about? We are using their high ends, the OP has them going all out. it doesnt matter if it’s an outlier because we are using them at their max potential. You can not like it all you want, take it up with the OP of that thread but to then do the reverse and downplay because "he got winded making ice golems"? Thats one of the silliest takes ive seen from you in a long time. Your normally more level headed than this
If you say soReality warping between two character that do so in an identical manner being nothing special isn’t an opinion, it’s just a fact.
Its not a copout. Something not being contradicted doesnt suddenly make it true. Can't really contradict something if the something is never demonstrated or shown can you.She hasn’t but this is such a copout unless you can prove it’s contradicted, I’m not going to bother with this argument.
Accelerator doing that was something he actually didYou got Accelerator being able to use his powers on even multiversal attacks so long as he knows the vector at work or shake up an entire galaxy, you got Holistic Espers like Kimi who make black holes across random locations in the universe. Beginning Child being able to protect themselves in a black hole or the Big Bang is hardly that big of a stretch.
You've seen it. You don't like the feat so you claim its someone jobbing. This is dishonest as hell AstaroShow me his best high end feat he’s done on his own. That doesn’t involve beating an obviously jobbing opponent so we don’t seriously argue Herald level Spider-Man from beating up Firelord
I'd be all for it. I dont give a single shitYeah if we really want to go down the rabbit hole of statements having to be proven rather than contradicted that's uh...
Yes, ive been 100% consistent on it. Even made a rant about it a while agoIgnoring statements, like that’s ever consistently applied here, and going full on with Marvel’s trash scaling
Got it, not even worth it at this point
You’re the one conceding here bro by saying the author is wrong about the power they thought up and how it works.Yes, ive been 100% consistent on it. Even made a rant about it a while ago
A statement by itself means fuck and all. You can be mad, you can call marvel scaling trash. But at least I can post the feats
Concession Accepted
Ignoring statements, like that’s ever consistently applied here, and going full on with Marvel’s trash scaling
Got it, not even worth it at this point
No wonder you got the FullMoon Evergreens in response to this kind of wank
Again, Statements without evidence backing it up mean nothing. It could come from God himself and I would say the same shit. The author can say whatever the hell he wants. If there isnt any substance to what hes saying then its hot garbage.You’re the one conceding here bro by saying the author is wrong about the power they thought up and how it works.
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