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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Yeah, I'm just going to put the rest of this here because the stupidity is reaching critical levels now...

So it's not a strawman, but a non-sequitur.

Ah yes, I didn't realize Ichigo taking no one seriously till Yhwach(when it was blatantly clear he could easily stomp everyone but Yhwach) is somehow a non-sequitur...


: a statement (such as a response) that does not follow logically from or is not clearly related to anything previously said

How is that a non-sequitur when it clearly followed your reasoning of how Askin bodied Ichigo so easily(Even though easily is in such massive quotations because we don't even know how that happened).

Ichigo was not fighting Stern Ritter. He was running away from Stern Ritter to catch Yhwach, and was immediately pressured and had to be saved. So that actually proves he's not capable of dicking around against such a force without being quickly defeated.

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This is such disingenuous bullshit that I can't even fathom a rational response but I'll try anyway:
Blaze... you fucking dumbass, Ichigo easily murdered the Femritters in battle to the point that even them activating their Volstandigt couldn't even get him to TRY. He had to tell Candice to dodge his Getsuga Jujishou because she was otherwise doing the equivalent of a deer in headlights. He treated the Sternritter he "ran away from" like they was nothing and he wasn't even saved, Byakuya, Renji and like Hisagi told him to go after Yhwach, you liar.

This has nothing to do with Askin, who Ichigo directly engaged and showed immediate caution against upon learning he defeated Grimmjow. Nowhwere is it said that Ichigo was not serious until Yhwach.

He showed caution, that doesn't suddenly mean he knows how Askin's powers worked, you goddamned monkey.

And the strongest is not the smartest.

Why does that matter for Yhwach? Why precisely does that matter?

By the way? Even the smartest say and do dumb shit all the time. Which costs them greatly.

Name them precisely who did the dumbest shit all the time? Because if it's Aizen... I'm going to be livid. If it's Urahara, I'm going to be furious.

Nobody is infallible, especially when the story objectively proves them wrong, as it does in this very instance. So will you actually respond to that evidence instead of dancing around it?

So you are just going to say that and not even back up your own point? Typical Spacebattler...


he was literally forced to use a stronger variant of Getsuga Tensho against Candice?

Stronger variant = Just 2 Getsugas overlapping. And when he was forced? By the way he reacted, he expected Candice's strongest move to be worth a toss.

He didn’t want to kill them, but he couldn’t hold back in the face of a Sternritter’s Volstandigg.

This is absolute 100% fan-fiction. The ONLY THING we get from that scene is that Ichigo had to tell Candice the obvious because she was surprised he effortlessly overwhelmed her strongest attack to the point of ignoring his shit coming at her. There is absolutely NOTHING stating Ichigo wasn't planning on killing the Sternritter, especially when we know in the 1st Invasion, he actually did "kill" Shaz Domino who only survived due to his special ability.

There’s a very obvious escalation where even though Ichigo toys with the Sternritters in base, he uses Getsuga Tensho to block Galvano Javelin(there was some lightning leftover from the Javelin, to note) and uses his stronger Getsuga Jujitsho to overpower Electrocution.

So Ichigo not trying somehow = Candice was a threat to him because some of her normal attack energy still lingered? Is this where we are going to right now?! Did people miss the fact that Meninas decked him at full blast and it did NOTHING when if we are going by that logic, Meninas shouldn't have done shit against Kenpachi even weakened.

There’s an obvious reason Ichigo used his strongest technique, and There’s no reason to discount it as ‘just fanservice’ unless it’s literally the last possible explanation to use.

Or he overestimated her attack due to his only experience fighting Sternritter was Quilge Opie and Yhwach...
That can absolutely color someone's expectations...

Meanwhile I’m just here baffled that someone could think that an evolved Hogyoku fused Aizen would even be remotely threatened by fucking Gremmy

I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone argue that before in a Bleach debate until now

>The Brain of the fucking Soul King
>Not a threat to Evolved Aizen

Yep, this is it, SB Bleach fans are the absolute Gods of Bad Takes...
 
I mean, the thread seems pretty chill so far.


Doesn't Norrin win this? They seem to be in agreement with that outcome :hm
Ill give it till the end of the day before some stupid shit starts happening. i can feel it
 

While the consensus has Mordred be the rightful victor(for fucking once), the way they act like Sakura has a chance at all is... weird:

^ Pretty much the above. Mordred Clarent would vape Sakura on the spot. Even if the battle came to being up close, Mordred should still have the edge unless Sakura broke out her Seal

I don't see how that will change the tide of battle no matter how much you push it...

Well except Sakura being much stronger than Herc

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And plus she can do things like conjure clones to pull off diversions.

Up close and Sakura going all out, fight becomes more decisive.

I swear, that is seriously one of the most wanked things I hate about VS. debates:
The fact you have people who look too much at feats on the paper that look more impressive vs. ignoring feats that are much more ludicrous when you actually go deep within it.

Sakura's feat is truly impressive... on the surface until you realize it's not really all that strong in context or in execution even in series. Meanwhile what is Heracles' best feat that SB loves pretending doesn't somehow work for him?
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Being able to stop and hold off for even a second an attack with the yield equivalent of turning the World into ash(While dealing with double the effectiveness against Life and Gods at once).

To anyone who says that Sakura > Heracles is either SB or listens too much to SB(Or goes into the FSN sub where they downplay the series itself one too many times like they came from SB)
 
every time supernova is mentioned in the franchise, not even once is it suggested it's an illusion

It's because that shit comes from fanon years ago before certain people either re-read the scenes in the game or looked at the Ultimanias for FFVII.

It doesn't help that ALOT of people say they love FFVII but barely remember dick about it past the major beats and still try and VS. with it really shows how stupid they can get with Meteor and Supernova(Especially consistently misunderstanding Sephiroth's goal despite both AC and Dirge of Cerebus having the Lifestream being removed from the Planet is basically a death knell for it, something established in FFVII.)
 
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