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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Nerfed. Double nerfed at that
You're misremembering things.

Aleister had to kill Zombie to take advantage of and replace the nerf spell with his own spell that nerfed them further, not the other way around.

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And I don't even think it nerfed their power further, all it did was remove their infinite-layered immortality and their phase manipulation, last I recall.
 
You're misremembering things.

Aleister had to kill Zombie to take advantage and revise the nerf spell with his own spell that nerfed them further, not the other way around.

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And I don't even think it nerfed their power further, all it did was remove their infinite-layered immortality and their phase manipulation, last I recall.
In the sense that he had to kill her first (while nerfing her further) so she’s not around to try to undo the spell. We know later on Crowley on his own that he’s unable to kill even double nerfed Magic Gods without the AAA (which was used here as well)

Anyway this is a tangent now
 
The AAA shit honestly doesn't really make much sense since it's literally just fueled by Aleister's willpower/magic, but like you said, this is basically going off on a tangent so I'm gonna leave it here :char
 

  1. Piccolo Jr.
  2. Raditz
  3. Nappa
  4. Vegeta
  5. Frieza
  6. Android 17 and 18
  7. Perfect Cell

I think she can beat 1 and 2 not sure about 3 and up.

Man, she would destroy everyone on this list :oldryoma
You need someone from DBS or pure TOEILand for her to defeat her/give her a challenge.


8 Pages and it's just arguing about Speedfeats over and over and over and over again...
What does any of this matter when Heian Sukuna nor no one in JJK has shown anything to deal with MHA at it's best? Like JJK is as weak as Demon Slayer is at the end of the day and that's just how it works, but I will chuckle at the fact that MHA is falling under the same shit they keep doing to Naruto all the time.
 
Tbh, it's too early judging her despite her LB7 feats imo.

...What are you talking about? We don't need Lostbelt 7 to understand how strong U-Olga Marie is that she would wipe DBZ off the map without TOEILand feats...

The basic concept and gist of a Beast alone would give U-Olga solid Solar System+ backing alone, this is before we count that Lostbelt Zeus was planning to run away despite the fact he's capable of Anti-Star System attacks. The fact that U-Olga can casually spam Black Holes also requires a fuckton of magical energy to even try and do:

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Basically using enough Magical Energy to do an equivalent of that and make one be 50 Kilometers at that? And casually? Yeah no.

If you DO include Lostbelt 7 including the fact she was HEAVILY holding back her actual power and Nasu's statement that U-Olga could take over Lostbelt ORT if she was at full power, I would very much say you would need TOEILand minimum for a challenge or DBS for a stomp, she just throws out a Black Hole like Evolt and kill everyone everytime.
 
...What are you talking about? We don't need Lostbelt 7 to understand how strong U-Olga Marie is that she would wipe DBZ off the map without TOEILand feats...

The basic concept and gist of a Beast alone would give U-Olga solid Solar System+ backing alone, this is before we count that Lostbelt Zeus was planning to run away despite the fact he's capable of Anti-Star System attacks. The fact that U-Olga can casually spam Black Holes also requires a fuckton of magical energy to even try and do:

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Basically using enough Magical Energy to do an equivalent of that and make one be 50 Kilometers at that? And casually? Yeah no.

If you DO include Lostbelt 7 including the fact she was HEAVILY holding back her actual power and Nasu's statement that U-Olga could take over Lostbelt ORT if she was at full power, I would very much say you would need TOEILand minimum for a challenge or DBS for a stomp, she just throws out a Black Hole like Evolt and kill everyone everytime.
Probably, but I still rather wait to see all of her 7 authorities to see how well she does potentially against other high tier verses like say Saint Seiya.

The fact that she's above DBZ is irrelevant
 

Nor does it compare, ToAru Multiverse is not infinite, this is backed up by the nature of the phases, and the only reason the Magic Gods are powerful is that they can reset the scenario millions of times (Othinus), but no, the multiverse itself is not infinite. (I am not including Tangram, it is not canon).


As in the quote above, Othinus is changing the current world, not creating new ones that parallel the old ones. If you remember the painting simile, the black world is her painting the canvas white, so that nothing is left (using the warping of reality to make the world disappear). Then she paints a whole new layer of paint (creates a Phase and places it on top of everything else).

In conclusion no, Digimon and ToAru do not compare at all. Digimon is superior in terms of cosmology.

The surface world (Assiah) alone is capable of holding an infinite amount of phases created by Othinus, the existence (or lack thereof) of parallel worlds means jack shit in this scenario (not that this would compare to Digimon shit, but still) :char


Also, please kindly fuck off with this "Othinus doesn't actually destroy things" nonsense that's been propagated for years at this point.
I hate repeating myself on this: Othinus' destruction of phases is a separate thing from her creating phases (obviously).

She can do both.

You'd know this if you'd actually read that volume.
 
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She can though? Unless you are including DBS with DBZ in which case she wouldn't. If we are only sticking with DBZ, she would utterly wreck house. This isn't a hard concept to grasp.
I’ll get to Buu, but the Ki for the Genk Dama against Kid Buu does have to cross at least about the length of 1/6th the diameter of the universe (Kaioshin Realm = 1/10th the volume of the Universe, would make it diameter roughly a third of it then, Kaioshin Kai sits at the center) to reach Kaioshin Kai. SSJ2 Vegeta could only hold Kid Buu off for a minute, would be a stretch to claim Base Vegeta could do better in terms of time frame :hm

Guess it becomes a question of, does the speed Goku is vacuuming their Ki (after all, it’s his power that drags their power to him) to him correlate to the speed of the attack itself or the like shrugs

Right, that’s Base Goku too, which you’d think isn’t an issue, but some of the more brain dead would have you believe he’s weaker than Namek Freeza still rather than hovering around stronger than Imperfect Cell and such levels and shit.

Do I actually need to engage with that shit given the scaling implications if it matters? :hm
 
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