This entire thread is just stupid, just stupid all around. Trying to equate Shiki to a Sword Saint is stupid enough because it ignores the Katana she uses is ancient enough that it can slice Bounded Fields unsheathed and cut Magecraft otherwise(Which is why Fujimaru makes the comparison to Muramasa's Blades while Aoko believes Saber Shiki must be a Sword Saint which fits with Nasu's interview during Samurai Remnant's release that Sword Saints can do bullshit things once they reach that level).
Then you got stupid shit like:
- Believing Saber never used her Mana Burst against Kojiro(She explicitly has and always did, the only issue why Kojiro didn't die there was due to him explicitly parrying her bullshit with his insane sword skills as the instant he clashes with her for even an instant, his blade is bent to shit)
- Believing that Knife Ryougi is still a swordsman calibur opponent despite Nasu stating the difference between Sword Ryougi and Knife Ryougi is VAST.
- Believing Taiga is Sword Saint level to try and force Sword Shiki to be at the level of a Sword Saint despite being treated as a nobody by Saber when she legit fought her to get her out of the house.
- Again trying to use Extra and FGO as a basis for how Ryougi must have "SURELY" got stronger(While Extra can be used due to Multiverse Theory, we have no idea how Ryougi defeated those 99 Servants meanwhile FGO actually keeps Ryougi nowhere near that level of strength at all, even Void Shiki never stated she can defeat a Beast of Alaya and even agreed she would lose too).
- and much, much more.
I just wanna focus on this stupid shit in particular:
Yet, often, Fate PoV's speak of abilities they haven't even seen as if they were well-informed, because they are addressing audience.
This is false as fuck and it's one of the many reasons I constantly contend that SB just harbors people that are godawful at reading comprehension and now sentence structure. FGO does not do that shit nowhere near as much as Blaze tries to imply and whenever it does happen, it's either guesswork or they figured it out due to actually seeing it in action and thinking it through after awhile. There are plenty of times where they are called out for just assuming("Servants can destroy the Planet" anyone?) or just guessing wildly(Holmes with Sigurd-Surtr in the beginning of LB2) which makes this even more damning.
It's pretty easy to tell when this is the case.
If that's the case, then why the fuck do we keep hearing the "flowerly language" garbage then? If that's the case, why you guys constantly use Da Vinci's words in Shinjuku wrong when Holmes corrected that shit later? If that's the case, how the fuck do you fail so badly at understanding that Saber Shiki has a Katana that can deal with Magecraft and Mystic Eyes made to end shit?
Just as it's insanely easy to tell here when "sword saint" is a highly obscure terminology that had no business making its way into the context (with the vast amount of other abilities and potential abilities in the setting) unless it was relevant in some capacity.
Or Aoko, just throwing something out there, was fucking guessing? You CAN actually write in something where a character knows something that's meant to enlighten the audience... and it's still the wrong answer. That's well known in stories of all kinds and especially mystery stories to keep the guesses coming. How the hell do you think you are being smart here?
Which helps, because long after this when Shiki actually fights, they're still calling her a sword saint, so there's no assumption being made.
Yes because Aoko somehow knows about Shiki's MEoDP and her Katana right? She must know by your logic despite MEoDP is so extremely rare, there are very few people who had it in the history of mankind.
MEODP has no business in this event. It doesn't even appear or is referenced. Not even when Shiki cuts an immaterial boundary.
Which her Katana can do, you numpty! Just like Muramasa's Katanas can do so, just like any major Noble Phantasm/Divine Construct can do.
And again, we already knew Shiki had these stats, so doubly a waste of time.
What does that have to do with her performance in any way?