That order is fucking nonsense.
"runs a gauntlet"
He doesn't get passed 1ha
Sure, I wouldn't disagree with Arc taking this. I can even see Scion losing to Zeus and Arjuna Alter despite both of them being weaker than Arc.
But my point is that you can argue that without downplaying Worm to such an absurd point that the story itself stops making sense anymore The entire point of Golden Morning was Scion destroying a huge chunk of Earths across multiple alternate realities, the entire point of the Cycle is Entities destroying all alternate variants of the planet in the multiverse and gathering the energy released in a single universe- saying Entities die to planetary impact or that Scion never destroyed a continent is willful ignorance at this point.
Argue for Fate all you want, but why say stupid things about Worm when it seems as if you haven't actually read it? Let's just give credit where it's due and leave it at that.
Ugh, you just gave me flashbacks to that awful Beerus vs Warrior thread.
People saying that Warrior would defeat Beerus with the trillions of powers he has but none of them actually answering how.
Squall turns Ichigo into a Card.
"runs a gauntlet"
He doesn't get passed 1ha
The quotes explicitly state that continents were destroyed, if you're taking it as Scion rendering them inhabitable then let's just agree to disagree.I'm stating verbatim what you used doesn't come off as Continental but more of just life wiping on the Continent itself.
I generally take statements as evidence unless they're contradicted later on, either by narration, translation or by lower feats.Fate isn't one of them
Squall turns Ichigo into a Card.
The quotes explicitly state that continents were destroyed, if you're taking it as Scion rendering them inhabitable then let's just agree to disagree.
I generally take statements as evidence unless they're contradicted later on, either by narration, translation or by lower feats.
It's something I do for all the works I argue for including ToAru which generally gives a mid-end interpretation. Worm does not get special treatment, I'm only arguing for it here because I think the debate needed an interpretation that was between high and low ends of the series otherwise I wouldn't touch the series with a ten foot pole.
If I were arguing for Fate then I would have done the same for it, but I'm an extremely casual fan and don't remember the series well enough to participate in the nitpicking date threads always end up in. Shrug. On that note-
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/soul-society-bleach-vs-these-threat-to-humanity-nasuverse-enemies.1194557/
I'm quite sure half the gauntlet pastes SS. Also, can any Bleach fan remind me why Ichibei's power over names is treated as concept manipulation?
literally what is hard to understand about "He obliterated two continents"
How he did it, in what time frame, and to what extent.
This isn't even a Worm thing, but even if a statement is credible you need some kind of information on the specifics if you want to slap a number on the feat. Destroying two continents could mean anything from "killing everything on them" to "ripped the tectonic plates out of the planet and chucked them into the sun"
Description of the Attack here and the video version here.
TL;DR: It should be obvious by the original name of Machine God Artemis but she's an Interstellar Battle Cruiser that is meant to destroy Interstellar Ships and even destroy Planets by tearing through them or straight out gouging them out.
Here, it's stated by Odysseus that Artemis is built to destroy Planets(Which makes sense as he is the leader of the Atlantis Army to know that about Artemis)
Atlantis itself is classified as a False Texture to the actual Texture that is Olympus by Holmes here.
Or he's obliterating the continents with an energy blast like the text implies, because he has exactly two notable powers to speak of..
Probably not even the most embarrassing fate that can befall him in this gauntlet.Squall turns Ichigo into a Card.
So based on these quotesHow he did it, in what time frame, and to what extent.
This isn't even a Worm thing, but even if a statement is credible you need some kind of information on the specifics if you want to slap a number on the feat. Destroying two continents could mean anything from "killing everything on them" to "ripped the tectonic plates out of the planet and chucked them into the sun"
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Xhom, those are two different quotes.
"Continents rendered uninhabitable, ecosystems demolished, weather patterns shifting. Our opponent was nigh-untouchable, capable of crossing between different Earths like we crossed a room, and we barely understood him."
"He came out swinging, obliterating two continents on two different worlds before he found us."
From what you've posted (and from what I've seen), all Hades' Authority does is destroy matter. Which.. Stilling can do and more.
(Also, since when can Arcueid use every Authority of every Divine Spirit?)
A better argument would be Arcueid removing the foundation of his abilities working via the shit she did to Roa.
Basically his point here is that in the "Old" timeline, there was infinite timelines based on the text from MirrorMoon's translation of F/SN of the Jeweled Sword of Zelretch and using the bit of from Aoko's Magecraft to show that he cannot truly draw upon infinite levels of Magical Energy while in the "New" timeline, due to the Pruning Theoretical Phenomenon, there is no longer infinite timelines but now finite timelines in rapidly expanding Universe based on the bit from Extella Materials.
This story cannot exist in Modern Type-Moon because it's a dead end with the extinction of humanity, meaning it would've been a possibility that would've been culled before manifesting.
In Fate/GO, however, Void Shiki is some weird cringe as all hell waifu that admires humans and willingly fights for them:
She even likes Ritsuka, who is just some malevolent guy that keeps trying to stop the salvation of humanity due to his broken ideas of wanting humanity to progress and suffer forever in an infinite cycle:
Hell, that constant derpy waifu smile with those beaming eyes is in contrast to her demeanor and appearance in KnK:
Basically his argument here is basically that once a person's Origin awakens, they get stronger to a ridiculous degree, using pages from the Tsukihime/Melty Blood Manga as proof and this is also what happens with Pseudo-Spirit Origins for Servants with the MMC at will. And his point against the "New" cannon is that Dead Apostle Shiki having issues against Vlov and using his Rank as a further tied against Shiki and thus, it's a huge contradiction
The Second Magic originally was the superordinate control over time, being able to do things from basic time travel and time reversal, to wiping out entire timelines with a mere gesture, retroactively making things true or false based on if he personally acknowledges them or not, and completely rewriting the events of history down to the traits, specialities, appearance, and abilities of people:
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According to the new Tsukihime Remake guidebook, however, the Second Magic is only capable of travelling to different parallel worlds and nothing more, with it being so pathetic that it's hyped for being able to inadvertently preform limited time travel via causing time lag when the user hops to another timeline:
In Mahoyo, it's explicitly stated that time travel of any kind can't be the Fifth Magic's true nature, as things related to time fall under the operation of the Second Magic, meaning its time manipulation is just a side effect that is subordinate to its true nature:
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But in Fate/GO, Alice says that the Fifth Magic's nature is "deceiving time", which is just a pretentious way of saying time manipulation:
I will try to make this as short as possible, as opposed to going into it in detail, as it'd be obscenely long. This is not part of the post Fate/GO and Extella major canon split, but a strange isolated canon contradiction much earlier on that later becomes part of the Modern Type-Moon canon. That being that Mirai Fukuin contradicts the core characterization of the main cast, completely destroys its messages, and overall just makes no sense.
Ryougi in MF somehow has gone back to her family and became the head of it, despite her not wanting anything to do with them for the entirety of KnK, on top of shitting out a child with Mikiya. This is completely contradictory to Ryougi and Mikiya's character.
Unified Language from KnK and Actress Again was rectonned out of existence because we can't have Servant level nigh-bricks be thrown into a Pre-Tower of Babel era where everyone speaks an abstract language that hypnotizes (warps/changes/alters) the records of all creation to varying degrees.
Ryougi doesn't give a shit that Mikiya is dead due to Goetia and carries on just fine, all while saying Ritsuka reminds her of Mikiya, even though Ritsuka is a random normal selfish dude, while Mikiya's "normalcy" is so extreme that it veers into being extremely abnormal and unlike anyone else.
Enuma Elish is now some weird brick beam thingy in Fate/GO that can be negated by armor with high enough stats.
Living Gilgamesh went from destroying and recreating Gaia seven times with Enkidu while they were fighting in Strange Fake, to getting his ribs kicked in by some generic fodder enemy that normal Servants can fight.
Living Gilgamesh went from being in the same speed range as BB, as he states his Mythology Mystic Code is something he had in life, with BB being part of the Moon Cell's core that can process Gaia's reality in a nanosecond. But in Fate/GO Kingu, who Gilgamesh states may surpass the original Enkidu, could only fly at 500 kilometers per hour, and could only achieve this speed due to a magical reactor amp.
Virtually nothing but Strange Fake, which started before GO and Extella is still continuing
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