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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Yeah, I told them they allowed the Naruto Subsonic downplay without even trying to correct it and now the whole series is fucked and that's something anyone who even touches Naruto knows is horseshit of the highest calibur.
not just that, the fact that goji is a mod and allowed siriel, a dumbfuck to become a vs advisor, or how they allow mook, xcano and thanatos to backseat mod.
 
not just that, the fact that goji is a mod and allowed siriel, a dumbfuck to become a vs advisor, or how they allow mook, xcano and thanatos to backseat mod.

Oh, I always wondered how the fuck Siriel ever became a VS. Advisor when it's damn apparent the nigga lies dead ass about anything in the Nasuverse and is usually caught lying by anyone who knows better.

Might as well make Mr. Sheldon a Mod/VS. Advisor, just make it clear for everyone that's the case.

Also, more from the Tatsumaki vs. Raditz thread:


Apparently, it's not fair to call this shit "nitpicking" as it's a "genuine critique"...
At this point, SB has officially lost the fucking plot for real.
 
Someone rightfully points out that by focusing on the inconsistencies of DB when all series have them, you are destroying the validity of the debate itself
CrossingArcadia's "response"


This dude was always 2 steps removed from ever making a point anytime he showed up in Nasuverse Debate Threads when I was there but this is some absolute next level dogshit.
"Why are you in a debate thread?" My brother in Christ, this only ever fucking happens in Spacebattles as anywhere else would have dude get shat on past Reddit and that's due to the shitty nature of the upvote system drowning out any actual potential discussions(Which is why I always vehemently disagreed with @OtherGalaxy that Reddit and Discord has any future over forums).
Only in Spacebattles will you have people do this shit seriously and not as a joke like ComicVine without having dudes basically raze you over the coals for it, it's not even like that in fucking GAMEFAQS VS. debates in past time there.
 
good god this guy is INSUFFERABLE

Join the club. He's usually extremely pretentious anytime he pulls up in the Nasuverse Threads acting like he's the hottest shit in town but this is some next level ass.
He doesn't understand by trying to make nitpicks be on the same level as genuine critiques, there is zero point for a VS. debate in the same fashion that movie discussions are just as tainted by the exact same stance on Youtube. Nor does he understand that dude raised an extremely good point in that having entire debates be centered around inconsistencies mattering completely poisons the well so he literally tries to cover his own ass in the worst fashion possible by stating "well everyone else does it" when only Spacebattles does that.

Not even Reddit abides by that shit, not even VSB abides by that shit... unless he means CBR or SV but no one counts them as Battleboards.
 




So basically, it's not "fair" to have OP basically create feat standings before a VS. debate because "That's not how debates work" but ignore the speed equal and stat equal debates SB love having...
And it's even more not fair because Dragonball "has so many variables of speed" and Tatsumaki "is just fast"...

CrossingArcadia has always been in the running for dumbest SB member but holy fuck, he's hitting critical mass here.
 
CrossingArcadia's "response"
This feels like a textbook SB-ism

He's making a statement that on its face is "true" but paired with everything else going on here it becomes clear what the real goal is, which is a lot of my issues with SB debating in general. "I can't suspend my disbelief enough to accept X series doing Y"
This might be a valid approach if there's sound reasoning (eg. in Jujutsu Kaisen, there's a planet level suicide attack but the community at large doesn;t accept anyone scaling to it because showings far lower than that outnumber it far too much. We can't accept it because the series kinda shits on that)

But uh
Dragon Ball is a pretty terrible choice of series to try and do this for
I definitely prefer forums, I just think they're mostly on the way out in most things not just this hobby. Youtube, Discord channels, Reddit, other social media seem to have eclipsed the forum scene for this hobby. Even VSB, which has the biggest forum community in this hobby now, people only actually pay attention to its wiki, not any of the threads they make or even source material in those threads
 

Okay yeah, I can't even joke anymore, they are about to fully downplay DB into the dirt at this point. Teacher's Pet Mods, Arcadia's stupid ass and others agreeing with him... we are about 2 steps away from them literally pulling Subsonic Naruto on DB as a whole.


That's always been Crossing's entire problem as a whole and why I state that he tends to be "2 steps away from a point". The issue as a concept what he's saying can be made into a point... the issue is that he's always 2 steps removed from that point making any goddamned sense in a meaningful fashion and thus just comes off as noise rather than it actually being a meaningful part of any debate.
The issue isn't that Dragon Ball is a terrible series to start it with because he does it with most series as a whole anyway.


While that's true, I don't think it will last long for the reasons I have stated and I feel people are ultimately realizing it themselves:
Reddit has the Upvote issue where Discussions are impossible to have because you can be buried in a few downvotes and anyone can say anything meaningful and get upvoted to shit
Youtube is equally awful for debates because Google themselves keep on fucking up Youtube to the point it's impossible to even tell WHEN YOU GOT MESSAGED to continue a debate nowandays.
Discord Channels are now adding FORUMS... I shouldn't need to say more.
The issue is that it's difficult to not only have easy info on hand, but even more difficult to save that info anywhere else and most social media sites are godawful for having meaningful discussions, being able to save data since a simple ban or shadowban is enough for that to be permanently lost and the very systems can curb debates maliciously.

It's easy to have small debates in those places, it's impossible have any real meaningful debates with those channels.
 
Why High diff I don’t even get
FB ichigo couldn’t 1 tap quilge
A Quilge who was not only in Vollstanding but had also further amped himself by absorbing Allon with Sklaverei.
So Quilge + Vollstanding + Sklaverei + Allon was still getting dominated by FB Ichigo with only his Blut saving him from dying.
We got yama casual swing putting 3 SR for a nap
All of whom were in BASE form, not to mention Bazz was able to mitigate that attack a bit.
Shouldn't have to explain that Base Nazis are not equivalent to one in Vollstanding Sklaverei with another amp on top of that.
We also know 80% of ywach blut can be damaged by shikai yama
Which doesn't mean nearly as much as your implying 'cause Royd is still literal fodder to Moustache or even the Elites in terms of feats. Darth Vader is 70% of Darth Sidious, doesn't stop him or his equal in ROTJ Luke from getting shat on.
Zero chance ichigo blut is on that level .
Fucking MOUSTACHE had to specifically exert more effort to break through his blut 'cause it was blocking him.
Post-Quincy powers FB Ichigo would be a difficult opponent for fucking BANKAI Yamamoto, never mind Shikai.
Tbh nothing encourages me to think yama swings and ichigo doesn’t auto die
Aside from very obvious feats showing he's leagues above the guys who were one-shotted (yet survived) and that's before he even got his Quincy powers.
 
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i loved the part where they were all going on about "the planet destroying energy blasts... where does all that energy go??? it doesn't mess up the ground"

and someone replied "the same place the energy from saitama's star erasing punches goes"
 
i loved the part where they were all going on about "the planet destroying energy blasts... where does all that energy go??? it doesn't mess up the ground"

and someone replied "the same place the energy from saitama's star erasing punches goes"

was at least glad someone pointed out how theyre using stated numbers to lowball, yet the numbers are not only significantly lower than the characters other showings but also inconsistent??? if anything the absurdly low numbers are the outliers lol
 
like you see this shit with Kaio Ken: its not just Goku's ki attacks that hit harder his physical strikes are increased too

Goku goes super saiyan and goes from at his best being able to kind of scuff frieza to crushing his hand