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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

It got axed? Was this recent? Because I thought this was a still ongoing series
 

The shift in focus away from character development hurts the later volumes pretty bad, yeah.

ExE is actually something I'm looking forward to because the DxD world has pretty much solved all it's major problems. Even the Hades thing was more "hey assholes if you're gonna turn the world upside down prove you got the chops to see it through". They need an outside antagonist.

Offscreening GR was kinda silly though.
 
ExE is actually something I'm looking forward to because the DxD world has pretty much solved all it's major problems.
That's the thing though- they shouldn't have solved so quickly. The man created a world with every religion and exhausted the entire plot while focusing only on Abharamic faith. There are dozens of pantheons and myths that he could've explored before moving on...
 

Nah, I liked the way Ishibumi handled it. The plot wasn't tied to Issei and the Gremory group specifically, the leaders of the world were actively trying to keep the world from exploding and moving towards peace before Issei was a thing. He only experiences it from the Devil side until he's a big enough player to start getting involved in the rest of the world.

The rest of the pantheons should be explored but I don't want the plot to freeze in place while Issei makes the rounds. I'd rather they do so during the ExE war where they'll all more or less be on the same side for once.
 
By the way, I am very surprised that in some DxD fanfics, the Trio's actions of peeping are called a real sexual assault. In the spirit of, oh how bad, aaaah, they are juvenile delinquents.

Like, seriously? And the fact that later, even in the anime, the whole club beats them with training bokken (which is quite a heavy thing) to the point that they end up in the medical center is greatly ignored.
 
Nah they deserved the beating.

If anime logic means you don't get suspended for peeping like that, it's only right it's balanced by the girls getting to take care of that shit themselves

Also I forgot this wasn't the convo so maybe we should move on
 

@Astaro
What do you think, Accurate list?
 
Yusei and Yusaku have the best win to lose ratio, where both have never lost an on-screen duel. Yusaku just straight up never outright lost, while Yusei lost to Jack in the past and nearly lost to Kiryu in their first match but his Duel Runner crashing halted the duel. Every other game he’s won and IMO, he’s the most tactical Yugioh protagonist of the lot

And while Yusaku is undoubtedly skilled enough to earn most of his wins, he relies on Storm Access quite a bit, which is basically Zexal’s Shining Draw level of bullshit

Imagine just randomly getting a new Cyberse Link monster added to your Extra Deck during a duel that just so happens to have the exact effect needed to both get you out of a bind and turn the entire duel around



Judai has the most collective wins than any other protagonist but has lost a fair amount so you can alternate between him and Yugi / Atem

Shark and especially Kaito earn their spots with Kaito being the one Kaiba clone that has the honor of being the one who’s the insurmountable rival to the main character. Even by the end of Zexal, Yuma has yet to ever actually beat Kaito, only get a draw and loss every other time

Replace Z-Arc with Kaiba. Yubel and Jack deserve their spots
 
Personally they seem to be putting too much stock in the NUMBER of wins and loses a duellist has and not the quality of who they actually won or lost to. For example, sure the Vrains guy never lost but I'd question who he beat that was all that impressive?

Also certain statements like "Jack even beat Aporia" are deceptive at best. Seeing as it was 3v1 and he literally could have done NOTHING without Rua getting Life Stream Dragon. They were all boned without that happening.

Kaito is NOT above Yuma and Shark come EoS, that's just silly. Hell he was BARELY managing to still beat Yuma by the end of ZEXAL I, let alone an EOS Yuma whom should be in the top 5 if not 3 MINIMUM.

Frankly the main protagonists are hard to put over each other so I'm not gonna bitch about their ranking too much.
 
You’re not giving Kaito enough credit. Zexal II shows he’s still superior to Yuma by handling Mizael who Yuma didn’t even last one turn against.

Yeah it was before Zexal Form 2 and 3 but eh, Kaito getting his own monster upgrades like Prime Photon Dragon and beating out Mizael at the end are good enough feats to argue he’s still peers to Yuma or Shark
 
Nah I don't think you're giving Yuma enough credit.

Yuma by EoS fended off assaults from a monster that was basically a fusion of all the barian cards with ALL their effects at once, then managed to survive a turn against basically ALL the versions of Hope at once without using ANY Number cards or ZEXAL. He was using basic Gagaga shit until he got Future Hope out.

There's a MUCH bigger difference between Zexal I and Zexal II Yuma and Shark than there is with Kaito (where Prime Galaxy Eyes is pretty much it), both in terms of ability and what they've added to their decks. I don't see Kaito taking either by EoS, at least not more often than not.

Also just a reminder but Ryo (Zane) ALSO never lost to Judai so Kaito is NOT the only one.
 
Only reason I kinda leave out Zane is because you also got Chazz who was way more of the rival obsessed with beating the MC. But yeah, Zane gets that honor too

Just give Kaito his Chaos Number 62: Galaxy-Eyes Prime Photon Dragon and he’d one shot both scrubs

 

What an interesting reddit thread folks, what could possibly go wrong in the comments section...

Am I the only one who's feeling beyond weary of seeing tired Destiny wank and people treating some of these popular modern FPS as one of the strongest series in all of fiction?

For anyone here on this board who happens to actually know the video game series better than I do?

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Destiny is pretty strong, but I don't think anyone's come up with a serious tiering system that can account for the way cosmology and infinity is handled in different series so blanket listing it as the strongest is a bit ridiculous (especially as Destiny's own tiering has its own unusual quirks and strangeness about understanding it)
 
A bit ridiculous?

You mean way beyond ridiculous.

I'm just beyond sick of modern FPS/Western AAA video game-tards and seeing just one series they froth at the mouth so much getting incessantly wanked in powerscaling to the being listed as the "strongest X" is frankly too many for me.

Just trying to find someone to tell me I'm not crazy.
 
Well I don't think it's really wanked in the usual sense that wank is meant. The Destiny lore or whatever isn't being misrepresented exactly, it's just being overhyped in comparison to contemporary series and characters on that same level. It's different than stuff like people trying to push Kratos as high as possible no matter the contradictions, because a lot of this cosmic stuff actually is in Destiny, it just isn't necessarily enough to put it above other high tier series.
 
Even by the scientific standards, which Destiny debaters bring up to argue that their verse is the strongest- Destiny at best stalemates Downstreamers. Both can create and have full control over Type-IV multiverses.
This is exactly the sort of thing I mean and I think we are both recalling the same sb thread lol where the destiny side made similar claims because, mostly, of Type IV