the best part of all this is that he has in his descriptions that
"these rankings are backed by feats, statements, and lore"
the best part of all this is that he has in his descriptions thatHow in the name of Christ is Vanille, a character whose ultimate move is DEATH and whose main benefit is her DEBUFFS, a fucking WHITE mage?
Never mind the fact her name isn't Oerba Yun (that's FANG'S name, ie Oerba Yun Fang). Her full name is Oerba Dia Vanille. This is inexcusable levels of ignorance, given Vanille literally says her full name in one of the best scenes of the entire game so it's not excusable that they didn't know this.
And where the hell is Yuna, an actual god damned White Mage? Yes she's primarily a summoner, but given who else they've classed as White or Black mages it should hardly matter.
I guess I should just be glad Selphie actually got a high position here, much as she also shouldn't count as a white mage.
Well we KNOW that's a lie, 'cause the datalog would have told him Vanille's actual name.the best part of all this is that he has in his descriptions that
"these rankings are backed by feats, statements, and lore"
sorry@alexander082006
Next time, use 1 post to respond, you didnt need to make 7 posts like that.
God damn dude
every speed feat and statement in jojo just didnt happen to sb. gotta focus on the one or two times a bullet mattered instead
"noo you cant use rohan keeping up with MiH as a feat despite him constantly being stated to be fuck off fast at drawing shit, it was a GAG!!!!!!"
I am 300%sure that the Sun was not a smiling Sun when the cataclysm succeded...
The evangelist having the power to actually affect the entire universe:what...do you mean?
Death sealed his soul to prevent Asura from escaping, but do to that fact, he was unable to leave Death city.
Also Asura was a danger even for the witches Who lived in another realm.
And also Death is consistently stated to be the ruler of the cosmos, not just the ruler of earth
Shinra didn't even use his powers on Arthur, he was more focused on rebuilding the world and beating the final villain than saving his friend that was FINE.
also the context of Death not being able to reach Arthur is weird.
Because Death mentions that one of the pillars is not on earth...but Arthur is not a Pillar, then he later proceds to disapper and creates a space where a being like him while reside (the death room)
Shinrabanshoman>the evangelist?and Shinrabanshoman uses basically the power of imagination?I don't see how that makes Universal Shinrabanshoman true...
severed universe??the fact that it is said that the entire universe?the fact that it is said that the rules of the world are changed??the entire structure of the world is changed?the fact that the stars are changed?with Giovanni saying that the physics of the world are changed, which is why the moon and stars changed?No, neither The Evangelist, the beings that are similar to The Evangelist nor Shinrabanshoman has ever shown that level of reach. We talked about this before and your reasoning back then makes zero sense even now.
the first part was my error, i admit...the second part...is straight up you lying (or not knowing).Uh, Witches didn't live in another Universe you idiot, they just live in a sealed off area only they can get into...
And Death is never called that.
then what is this???????????Sho asks Death about the pillars, Death responds and in context, he is reffering to the pilllars, and he says that he wanted all the eight pillars powers...THERE IS NO MENTION OF ARTHUR.None of that makes sense when Death is created from Shinra's power...
And no, Death didn't refer to Arthur as a pillar, he literally took away everyone's Pyrotechnical abilities away and mention he couldn't reach Arthur.
every speed feat and statement in jojo just didnt happen to sb. gotta focus on the one or two times a bullet mattered instead
Dude was able to get it out before Crazy Diamond could hit him like come onIt's funny too when they bitch about the MiH feat when every time we see Rohan use Heaven's Door or draw manga, it's extremely quick and the opponents can't do shit about it...
They can't even tell he wrote on them until the effect happens and they even brought in Thus Spoke Rohan Kishibe which further proved it.
They love placing certain series under extreme scrutiny but when push comes to shove, they ignore it when it comes to the "obvious" picks even when their feats are genuinely not even that good(Like JJK or Versus).
Shinrabanshoman>the evangelist?and Shinrabanshoman uses basically the power of imagination?
severed universe??the fact that it is said that the entire universe?the fact that it is said that the rules of the world are changed??the entire structure of the world is changed?the fact that the stars are changed?with Giovanni saying that the physics of the world are changed, which is why the moon and stars changed?
the first part was my error, i admit...the second part...is straight up you lying (or not knowing).
it is said multiple times in the salvage arc, that Death is the ruler of the cosmos, not just by Noah (greed)but also by the great old one of power (and it is even reminded to Death the kid has a flashback)
then what is this???????????Sho asks Death about the pillars, Death responds and in context, he is reffering to the pilllars, and he says that he wanted all the eight pillars powers...THERE IS NO MENTION OF ARTHUR.
ARTHUR, is not a pillar, and i can't believe this was a Error on Ohkubo part, because the guy wrote perfectly the entire ending to just make a screw up of words this badly.
also Death literraly disappers from the world (in via, he moves to a place where he could reside).
ignoring that Shinra altered Adolla, which was already merged with reality.Nothing Shinra does reaches outside the planet, though. Neither he nor Death can reach Arthur in space.
so are the stars part of the planet?are the moon part of the planet?is the entire world being live action just limited to the planet (which makes no sense because they also said that the rules of the world changed)?you know that world can mean various things:The mad scientist dude saying "so it will be with the universe" is just him saying "this is the way of things". Everything else on that list refers to "the world".
then why does Death say that he would disapper from the world????????Death creating a closed off dimension is not a separate universe lmao
above.The guy who keeps saying "ruler of the cosmos" also keeps saying "everything in this world"
except that it clearly is not being specific, because there is no one else outside the world (Arthur, is again, not a pillar)and the only ones who you can consider outside the world, are Sumire and Amaterasu (which choose to die rather than to live again in the soul world).It doesn't really matter if he was referring to Arthur or someone else considering the point of "it's outside this world" still stands.
and we ignore that Death literraly burried his soul so Asura could not escape?Also we revolve back around to the entire plot of SE specifically requiring Death to be limited to the planet lmao
ignoring that Shinra altered Adolla, which was already merged with reality.
why still bringing Arthur being on space has a disprove?Arthur was not in danger, also Death literraly teleports out of the world after speaking with the group.
so are the stars part of the planet?are the moon part of the planet?is the entire world being live action just limited to the planet (which makes no sense because they also said that the rules of the world changed)?you know that world can mean various things:
it can be either humanity has a society, either means the earth, or it means the universe...in this is the universe because again, why are the stars even changed??
then why does Death say that he would disapper from the world????????
above.
except that it clearly is not being specific, because there is no one else outside the world (Arthur, is again, not a pillar)and the only ones who you can consider outside the world, are Sumire and Amaterasu (which choose to die rather than to live again in the soul world).
and we ignore that Death literraly burried his soul so Asura could not escape?
and we also ignore that Death has the madness of order, and he could use it at any time, but he does not use it, because Death is a benevolent being, not a tyrannical being like Asura says he is (which is another point important to the plot, Death, with all of his power of God to rule over everything, and being the one who brings order to the world, still believes in Humanity)just like how Kid, even after gaining the powers of his father, didn't use the madness of order, because he had faith in humanity, just like his Father had faith on humanity.
basically, character personality dictates why they don't do certain things.
the evangelist does not try to destroy everything from the get go, because is not her objective, her objective is to bring the despair on humanity by making them CHOOSE death (which is just a hypocrite thing, because she is forcing them to choose Death, she literraly manipulated humanity since its very beginning to end in the result of death and is actively preventing them from choosing another option, that is not death)
I’m gonna be honest, the Made in Heaven scene does come off as a gag, it’s kinda similar to Goku traveling to the Moon in early DB
"noo you cant use rohan keeping up with MiH as a feat despite him constantly being stated to be fuck off fast at drawing shit, it was a GAG!!!!!!"
also before anyone says "if you hate SBs jojo takes so much why don't you go debunk them"
this is why
I have debunked them but they just keep repeating the same statements that are objectively false even if you ignore lightspeed scaling
Their community is not willing to accept a series being at a speed tier they dislike, it's that simple. It's not beneficial for me or for them to waste more time on it besides the 10 seconds it takes to say "lol this is ass" here
Shinrabanshoman>the evangelist?and Shinrabanshoman uses basically the power of imagination?
severed universe??the fact that it is said that the entire universe?the fact that it is said that the rules of the world are changed??the entire structure of the world is changed?the fact that the stars are changed?with Giovanni saying that the physics of the world are changed, which is why the moon and stars changed?
the first part was my error, i admit...the second part...is straight up you lying (or not knowing).
it is said multiple times in the salvage arc, that Death is the ruler of the cosmos, not just by Noah (greed)but also by the great old one of power (and it is even reminded to Death the kid has a flashback)
then what is this???????????Sho asks Death about the pillars, Death responds and in context, he is reffering to the pilllars, and he says that he wanted all the eight pillars powers...THERE IS NO MENTION OF ARTHUR.
ARTHUR, is not a pillar, and i can't believe this was a Error on Ohkubo part, because the guy wrote perfectly the entire ending to just make a screw up of words this badly.
also Death literraly disappers from the world (in via, he moves to a place where he could reside).
are you sure?and i keep repeating myself on this one.Adola was merged with the planet, which is what Shinra altered. Like Arthur literally observes him making those changes.
Shinra didn't have any reasons to save Arthur on space, his objective about creating a new world and defeating Haumea were 100 times more important than Arthur.Shinra can't reach Arthur in space, Death cant reach Asura on the moon, this is not a difficult concept.
you can enter it via a portal...that is on the school.Also Death just makes a closed off dimension for himself to stay in, it's not another universe. Hell, we see it in SE and it's technically inside the school.
are you telling me that the sun was anime style??????????The live action thing is how things were before the Cataclysm which altered how things worked on the planet. Just like Shinra altered them later.
Fire force gives context to that, the moon is closer because Fairie made the moon heavier, which caused the moon to fall into earth, Shinra stopped the moon, which made it so the Moon stayed on the Atmosphere.The Soul Eater moon is portrayed as being much closer than the real one, and for that matter the power of Death and Asura can reach that far.....over time.
EXACTLY, thats how people percieve the stars, Adolla is the world of perception/ideas, once it is merged with reality, ideas are absorbed and turned into a reality (this process was happening way before that)People had a perception about the moon has a smiling moon, people had the perception about the stars has five pointed objects.Idk what you mean about the stars but even if they changed it'd just be how the people were observing them.
that is not part of the world.Because he's making a closed off dimension to live in
you didn't answer me that point.Above
are you [censored] LYING??????????????????????????Death didn't even correct Sho on that, he didn't say "no, you are wrong"or something similar, he just answered the question by saying that he wanted the powers of all the five ones.Death doesn't actually mention the pillars, thats Sho making assumptions. Arthur is able to draw on Adolla to a far greater extent than any of the Pillars besides Haumea and Shinra by the end of the series, having been able to partially extinguish the flames of Adolla from space.
because it was outside death city?So? Once he got out he went to the Moon and Death couldn't reach him.
yeah thank you for telling me this, when i already know, and ignore that everyone says that it can affect all the world.The Madness of Order is explicitly the same thing as what Asura does, only oriented towards Order. And Asura cant reach across that gap fully.
even when Kishin Asura is both madness and fear incarnated, it is said by its own clowns that its madness is infinite and it basically never ends.The Evangelist is humanity's unconscious desire for death. It's (relatively speaking) weak as fuck compared to Shinra or Death because it's a tiny portion of the human psyche.
ignoring that Adolla literraly alters the entirety of reality?ignoring that the evangelist gave Sho the power to manipulate time?Haumea the power to get protected by fate?Fairie the power to control gravity?Shinra the power to time travel?etc.However, she did try to destroy everything right away, she couldn't because humanity didn't actually agree with her. Her power is limited to humanities despair.
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