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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

This is like saying is Imagine Breaker a contradiction because it doesn't break imaginations despite the name or the Matrix of Leadership doesn't bring Optimus or whoever into the concept of Leadership(Definiton of Matrix here) Dude, it's literally the equivalent of a 1st Grader not understanding Homonyms.

How the hell did that stump you in any fashion?
 
Salfarc said:
As I am unaware, can he do that? Can he not?


In the screenshot, he said there that there is a contradiction, is there a contradiction?...
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Warrior Entity is a separate individual and wouldn't be considered relevant for a vs battle. Morgan could kill him anyway tbh :maybe

There is no contradiction, the dude is just harping on the weird way they translated "Fantasy Tree" to "Tree of Emptiness" and insisting they can't actually have anything inside them if they're called that
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
This is like saying is Imagine Breaker a contradiction because it doesn't break imaginations despite the name or the Matrix of Leadership doesn't bring Optimus or whoever into the concept of Leadership(Definiton of Matrix here) Dude, it's literally the equivalent of a 1st Grader not understanding Homonyms.

How the hell did that stump you in any fashion?
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..but it does.
 

I really do love the wank Regulus gets... despite Excalibur working on Sefar for far less and high enough Magical Energy can easily distort Space and make a mockery of physics...
The only people Artoria would even have trouble with(and that's a BIG ask) is Reinhard(and that's if he's able to get the right amount of blessings and even then, Excalibur would still overpower them because "lolmagicalenergy" and even then, it would be an inevitable stalemate) and Satella who is still a massive unknown despite the things she can do(Because Spacebattles love ignoring she isn't invincible nor can we use how she kills people if Subaru tells them about Return From Death into an actual combat ability and Artoria can most definitely "lolnope" virtually everything she does with her Magical Resistance + Mana Burst)

It's pretty much 8/10 for Artoria with only 2/10 if Reinhard can get the blessing fast enough to potentially infinitely stalemate her.
 
How is distorting space relevant? Reid/Reinhard can cut space iirc and that still does jack against his Authority

And considering that Regulus' Authority is explicitly NOT magic, magic resistance isn't going to help either
 
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reading up on Regulus, his whole thing is "muh time is stopped therefore i take no damage from anything"

considering we go by feats, just look at the strongest thing his body was able to take with its time stopped and go from there. Shits not hard

inb4 "i dont need to show any feats he can tank anything and everything"
 
Masterblack06 said:
reading up on Regulus, his whole thing is "muh time is stopped therefore i take no damage from anything"

considering we go by feats, just look at the strongest thing his body was able to take with its time stopped and go from there. Shits not hard

inb4 "i dont need to show any feats he can tank anything and everything"
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??

Going by feats means the other character has to have feats of interacting with such an ability, not the other way around:giogio
 
Masterblack06 said:
reading up on Regulus, his whole thing is "muh time is stopped therefore i take no damage from anything"

considering we go by feats, just look at the strongest thing his body was able to take with its time stopped and go from there. Shits not hard

inb4 "i dont need to show any feats he can tank anything and everything"
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Strongest thing he blocked was Reinhards slashes.

To note Reinhard's attacks can cut space but are still unable to bypass stillness.

On the other hand, Reid (who is weaker than Reinhard, but is said to be more skilled than him) can cut concepts which include authorities such as Regulus's.
 
Paxton said:
??

Going by feats means the other character has to have feats of interacting with such an ability, not the other way around:giogio
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No fucking shit Pax, we still need to know what the strongest things hes dealt with so that we can compare the two to each other.

Fucks sake man, you want to argue just to argue for no fucking reason sometimes

Cryso Agori said:
Strongest thing he blocked was Reinhards slashes.

To note Reinhard's attacks can cut space but are still unable to bypass stillness.

On the other hand, Reid (who is weaker than Reinhard, but is said to be more skilled than him) can cut concepts which include authorities such as Regulus's.
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Alright cool, then just compare that to Romulus and see if he can do anything similar.

We need to knoww what Regulus has resisted so we can start throwing attacks at him and see if they work
 
Pax the type of nigga to expect someone to list all 4 quadrillion of Ajimu's skills till we find something that works
:heston
 
Masterblack06 said:
No fucking shit Pax, we still need to know what the strongest things hes dealt with so that we can compare the two to each other.

Fucks sake man, you want to argue just to argue for no fucking reason sometimes



Alright cool, then just compare that to Romulus and see if he can do anything similar.

We need to knoww what Regulus has resisted so we can start throwing attacks at him and see if they work
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A reminder that Servants have Conceptual Attacks and Defenses be utterly destroyed by other Servants...

@Cryso Agori God Hand, Armor of Fafnir, Caenis' Invulnerability at Sea, all of those are Conceptual Defenses that can ultimately be overcome and destroyed if you know how or with just enough power(Caenis had to bounce the second Artemis was gonna blow the Nautilus to shit because it would go right through it, same with Artemis stating and confirming she can also destroy God Hand in 1 to 2 shots).

So again, it's well within Excalibur's capabilities especially as that's what killed Sefar as Sefar worked under it's own bullshit conceptual defense and offense.
 
the conceptual attack in question: Excalibur overloading Sefar's ability to absorb energy
 
Paxton said:
Post the full quote/scene then, because I distinctly recall that being the reason as to why Excalibur succeeded against her.
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Uh no? You are mistaking "Sefar absorbed SOME of it and still got overwhelmed and died" for "Sefar got overflowed from Excalibur and died" which the latter is never stated.
It's stated in Extella(Which I played and brought up constantly) that the former happened and Sefar is leagues beyond everyone else in Re:Zero and even if you want to bring in "Well Excalibur was fully unlocked", then I can bring up a rushly created Divine Constructs in LB5 was able to kill Lostbelt Artemis and that shit is not even remotely close to the better Divine Constructs in the slightest.
 
Paxton said:
Post the full quote/scene then, because I distinctly recall that being the reason as to why Excalibur succeeded against her.
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What scene? There's no mention of her being able to absorb Excalibur.

The scene where it kills Sefar is at the start of Altera's route, it does the same "oh god the Titan is destroying everything" monologue and then smash-cuts to her getting vaped by Excalibur.

The observer doesn't know what it is iirc. Hell, they don't even mention Excalibur by name in that scene, we know it's Excal because of Sabers story.

The mats also specifically say she couldn't absorb Excalibur which is why it killed her. Her ability doesn't have any confirmed in-universe limits, she explicitly beat the shit out of multiple people significantly stronger than she was in pure unga-bunga.
 
So do Excalibur or Artoria actually have feats of blasting apart someone frozen in time or not?
 
CrossTheHorizon said:
What scene? There's no mention of her being able to absorb Excalibur.

The scene where it kills Sefar is at the start of Altera's route, it does the same "oh god the Titan is destroying everything" monologue and then smash-cuts to her getting vaped by Excalibur.

The observer doesn't know what it is iirc. Hell, they don't even mention Excalibur by name in that scene, we know it's Excal because of Sabers story.

The mats also specifically say she couldn't absorb Excalibur which is why it killed her. Her ability doesn't have any confirmed in-universe limits, she explicitly beat the shit out of multiple people significantly stronger than she was in pure unga-bunga.
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It's because he's confusing HOW the materials stated that Sefar was still able to absorb some of Excalibur's power but ignored the very fashion of how Excalibur uses it's power meant Sefar couldn't do shit against it in execution:

Magic Energy Absorption [Skill name]
Exclusive skill of Attilaight Cell.
The body of the Titan, composed of spiritron collectors, will unconditionally absorb "magical energy processed into techniques" and covert it into HP and Armor values.
Techniques equate to skills, knowledge, and civilization. To an Anti Cell, there is no better form of nourishment.
Any form of attack (interference) designed by intellect - however undeveloped the theory behind it may be - will only grant more power to Altera.
The large firepower of greater magecraft and strategic weapons of science and technology will fuel the fire further.
On the other hand, while pure magical energy - what can be called life-force itself - will also be mostly absorbed, it can still exert its regular effect.
Facing against an Anti Cell, it comes down to simply "bludgeoning" it.
Although this is a troublesome skill that can absorb even physical attacks boosted with Mana Burst, one thing can deal an effective blow. The energy discharge of the holy sword.
The White Titan that had once appeared upon the surface was repulsed by the holy sword tempered in the inner sea of the Earth.
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So he's completely confusing what happened and how it went even in Sefar's own mind. There was no "clash", no nothing, one second she believed the mission was done and the next second, "Why did I lose my fucking torso?!"
 
CrossTheHorizon said:
She can hurt Mash through her skill, which is a similar thing. It fucks with the time axis to prevent attacks from harming the target
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When?

Even then, someone being frozen in time isn't the same as someone being displaced out of time.
 
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