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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever


Same old Fate vs. Overlord thread, same old "No one knows what the fuck they are talking about in either fashion". I can't wait for people to try and retardedly hyperscale Cocytus to Shaltear despite her canonically being stronger than him in the overall PvP sense and then use some really stupidly worded feats to show Cocytus is somehow above Mordred despite having no true feats to his name.
Mordred dispersed a huge amount of clouds, enough to roast 99% Overlord character
 
Mordred dispersed a huge amount of clouds, enough to roast 99% Overlord character

99% Whose the one percent who would survive?
Like her ramming Ramesseum Tentyris while it was in midflight to the point it tilted in the 2nd Camelot movie alone puts her above everyone in Overlord. That wasn't even using her NP, that was just pure Mana Burst enhanced strength.
 

Same old Fate vs. Overlord thread, same old "No one knows what the fuck they are talking about in either fashion". I can't wait for people to try and retardedly hyperscale Cocytus to Shaltear despite her canonically being stronger than him in the overall PvP sense and then use some really stupidly worded feats to show Cocytus is somehow above Mordred despite having no true feats to his name.
Shalltear is stronger then cocytus in a one v one context but cocytus is actually physically stronger then her, and does more dps overall, he lacks sustain/magical abilities (He weilds four divine class relics, on top of his tail, giving him five weapons/sources of damage when in melee). People really misunderstand the strength of shalltear, she's the strongest/most optimized of the guardians but the gaps aren't massive and all the guardians are better at different things. For instance mare has the highest aoe damage, and would actually beat shalltear if he kept to range, aura and her beast are similarly powerful/dangerous. They're all designed to defend their floors from hordes of high level players, none of them are weak compared to the others, outside victim, whom exist solely to die.

Feat wise cocytus has only two of his own, both from the great evil tree audio drama (Which was confirmed cannon when the dryad from that story appeared in volume eight) Smashing two 300-meter-long tentacles with a single strike, and setting up to one shot the 100-meter tree kaiju using an ability called wisdom king strike from a good distance. Albedo tanked the attack to stop cocytus from killing the monster instantly, which only injured her hand.

I guess he also stated he could have frozen the entire lizardman village and had to restrict the damage and area of his aura not to insta kill the lizardmen cheifs?

A fact of overlord is outside ainz and shalltear we've seen very little of what the gardians are capable of, we just learned mare can turn their body into an elemental state and self revive using a flame type spell. He's also apparently really strong in melee likely aping the dnd druid is a better fighter memes.

Like sebas just randomly has a mind control skill in his pure dragonoid monk build...For some reason.

Really using anyone outside ainz and shalltear from the level 100's seems rather pointless to me, we have so little on them there's not much that can even be discussed beyond stats/scaling. You could also use pandoras actor I suppose but he was massively holding back in his pdl fight, and is basically just a weaker ainz since we've never seen him use any other form in combat. Theoretically he should have the most varied abilities and stats with his forty one forms but we've never seen them.
 
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OP just must not know I guess
 
They keep creating the same topics over and over again, basically an endless loop of SP's stupidity
 
 
Shalltear is stronger then cocytus in a one v one context but cocytus is actually physically stronger then her, and does more dps overall, he lacks sustain/magical abilities (He weilds four divine class relics, on top of his tail, giving him five weapons/sources of damage when in melee). People really misunderstand the strength of shalltear, she's the strongest/most optimized of the guardians but the gaps aren't massive and all the guardians are better at different things. For instance mare has the highest aoe damage, and would actually beat shalltear if he kept to range, aura and her beast are similarly powerful/dangerous. They're all designed to defend their floors from hordes of high level players, none of them are weak compared to the others, outside victim, whom exist solely to die.

Feat wise cocytus has only two of his own, both from the great evil tree audio drama (Which was confirmed cannon when the dryad from that story appeared in volume eight) Smashing two 300-meter-long tentacles with a single strike, and setting up to one shot the 100-meter tree kaiju using an ability called wisdom king strike from a good distance. Albedo tanked the attack to stop cocytus from killing the monster instantly, which only injured her hand.

I guess he also stated he could have frozen the entire lizardman village and had to restrict the damage and area of his aura not to insta kill the lizardmen cheifs?

A fact of overlord is outside ainz and shalltear we've seen very little of what the gardians are capable of, we just learned mare can turn their body into an elemental state and self revive using a flame type spell. He's also apparently really strong in melee likely aping the dnd druid is a better fighter memes.

Like sebas just randomly has a mind control skill in his pure dragonoid monk build...For some reason.

Really using anyone outside ainz and shalltear from the level 100's seems rather pointless to me, we have so little on them there's not much that can even be discussed beyond stats/scaling. You could also use pandoras actor I suppose but he was massively holding back in his pdl fight, and is basically just a weaker ainz since we've never seen him use any other form in combat. Theoretically he should have the most varied abilities and stats with his forty one forms but we've never seen them.

I mean... this alot of talk to ultimately prove to me nothing really...
Like ChaosTheory has went through Overlord and the only thing he still found impressive was just freezing the top layer of water, not even the entire lake.
Yes, we are supposed to go with the Great Evil Tree and it's "300 meter roots" but at the same time, you bring up that the New World is not remotely bound to the general laws of physics so why should we believe that those roots should have anywhere near the destructive power that they should? We have seen other Overlord Media and their attack power is hilariously lacking even at the best of times and it's a franchise carried by hype and aura no different than Jujutsu Kaisen.


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OP just must not know I guess

Hilariously, I would actually bet on Alcides more than Ragna considering Reincarnation Pandora can literally steal the Silver dead ass from Ragna considering that's exactly what it did to Gugulanna the second he tore it open with it's Ultra Divine Core.
 
I mean... this alot of talk to ultimately prove to me nothing really...
Like ChaosTheory has went through Overlord and the only thing he still found impressive was just freezing the top layer of water, not even the entire lake.
Yes, we are supposed to go with the Great Evil Tree and it's "300 meter roots" but at the same time, you bring up that the New World is not remotely bound to the general laws of physics so why should we believe that those roots should have anywhere near the destructive power that they should? We have seen other Overlord Media and their attack power is hilariously lacking even at the best of times and it's a franchise carried by hype and aura no different than Jujutsu Kaisen.



Hilariously, I would actually bet on Alcides more than Ragna considering Reincarnation Pandora can literally steal the Silver dead ass from Ragna considering that's exactly what it did to Gugulanna the second he tore it open with it's Ultra Divine Core.
That might not even work considering Ragna's Silver Aura is just Anti "everything that comes from a magical source".

Cant argue anything else since I dont know enough about Alcides feats

AND NO XHO THIS DOESNT MEAN i WANT YOU TO INFO DUMP ME
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He killed a bull that was 100km tall, whose roar alone was strong enough to shake the entire planet and strong enough to spread from the USA to Asia and Europe, and it had horns that could break the concept of vectors; Its storm is also large enough to reach the size of Nevada, and it can block a meteorite strong enough to impact global sea levels and the planet's rotation.Hydra's poison of Alcides is strong enough to kill concepts and break space, while also affecting things like the laws of physics and fate. his Nine Lives ability allows him to nullify resurrects, His fur makes him immune to weapons created by humans
 
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He killed a bull that was 100km tall, whose roar alone was strong enough to shake the entire planet and strong enough to spread from the USA to Asia and Europe, and it had horns that could break the concept of vectors; Its storm is also large enough to reach the size of Nevada, and it can block a meteorite strong enough to impact global sea levels and the planet's rotation.Hydra's poison of Alcides is strong enough to kill concepts and break space, while also affecting things like the laws of physics and fate. his Nine Lives ability allows him to nullify resurrects, His fur makes him immune to weapons created by humans

You know, if you are gonna go that far, you might as well use more than just Strange Fake feats since Gugulanna exists far more than that...
Like the fact a single stomp from Gugulanna can destroy the area the size of Connacht twice over at the least(As the Singularity is explicitly over the actual Connacht and Da Vinci stated it would destroy both at once) and it wasn't even full power with that stomp. Or the fact that Gugulanna can hold off Stage 2 Tiamat for atleast a day, if not a whole week.
 
I mean... this alot of talk to ultimately prove to me nothing really...
cause if you go that route and say nothing on overlord follows physics the. Everything becomes incalculable and unusable.

Its something I bring up because it’s a very weird aspect of world building but from a discussion/vs debate point of view you kinda just have to ignore to use overlord at all
 
cause if you go that route and say nothing on overlord follows physics the. Everything becomes incalculable and unusable.

Its something I bring up because it’s a very weird aspect of world building but from a discussion/vs debate point of view you kinda just have to ignore to use overlord at all

That's been the issue with Overlord since forever:
People want to go by DnD logic for Overlord but Overlord isn't even done with actual DnD in mind in any real capacity. It's worse when they then try and use this for how powerful their spells are but there is no real descriptions whatsoever and the actual level of power looks mid as shit vs. something from Planescape: Torment which is based in the DnD world.
Following through on that, alot of feats in Overlord is just plain ass in the longterm and even with context, it's still an absolute joke unless you go so ass deep... and it ultimately helps for fucking nothing.
And that's if it doesn't just get thrown out completely because the very notion of everything just doesn't exist in Overlord.

It's basically fanboys and people who don't want to read the LN that basically carries Overlord in VS. debates and most people just end up ignoring the verse full blast or make fun of it because it really doesn't have anything to it's name but hype and NLF.
 
reminds me of when someone said that air resistance doesnt exist in overlord
but niggas were still trying to do calcs for shit that need air resistance
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reminds me of when someone said that air resistance doesnt exist in overlord
but niggas were still trying to do calcs for shit that need air resistance
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Exactly. Like I fully remember that despite the fact we only take that stuff into account because we BELIEVE that's what the author explicitly takes into account... so if the franchise explicitly states certain laws doesn't exist in that world, why should anyone try and put feats based on that? I mean we even account for the x10 Gravity for Frieza destroying Planet Vegeta so I don't see how this is suddenly new to people...

It's like Type-Rey stated:
Overlord just has it's Instant Death Magic as it's ace in the hole... the problem is that there are plenty of series that makes it null and void and Ainz and co is too slow to take any real reasonable advantage with it anyway.
 
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. It would be best to get something from Overvoid to stop Orson Welles robot
 
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