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Saber said:
ratchet doesn't have anything, he already started his eminence in shadow larp
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I don't understand what you mean by this.

Anyway, in terms of reads my inclination is leaning Poyser/Sparkles. I think Poyser won the logical argument with Saber. But throughout Saber has just come across as genuine to me, and the largest part is that Fuji, who is the only player properly familiar with Saber, has them as strong town.

If I had to vote now, I'd be voting Sparkles. From my perspective she's basically guaranteed scum. I don't believe Town have a Vig and that's it, and Poyser just fake claims Cop with Saber claiming roleblocker. That's not really a solve I'm likely to get to so if that is the case, I think it's well played.

So what I asked myself then was, who is playing for positional supremacy. I'm dealing with two worlds here - one is Saber/Sparkles, the other is Poyser/Sparkles. In the former, Saber just goes all in with defending his scum mate, despite not being in a favourable position. His scum mate doesn't really back him up from here and seems more like playing the odds. On the other hand, Poyser has some shading with Sparkles, which can help to create that separation they would need to convince the one Townie to vote me instead of Poyser (which doesn't seem to be particularly difficult) with Poyser having already laid the groundwork for his vote just in case he needs it. In this respect, I see a clearly plan in place than the former. Which is why I think that's the solution.

Sparkles is the common denominator in both worlds, hence why I'd vote her first.
 
Ratchet said:
I don't understand what you mean by this.

Anyway, in terms of reads my inclination is leaning Poyser/Sparkles. I think Poyser won the logical argument with Saber. But throughout Saber has just come across as genuine to me, and the largest part is that Fuji, who is the only player properly familiar with Saber, has them as strong town.

If I had to vote now, I'd be voting Sparkles. From my perspective she's basically guaranteed scum. I don't believe Town have a Vig and that's it, and Poyser just fake claims Cop with Saber claiming roleblocker. That's not really a solve I'm likely to get to so if that is the case, I think it's well played.

So what I asked myself then was, who is playing for positional supremacy. I'm dealing with two worlds here - one is Saber/Sparkles, the other is Poyser/Sparkles. In the former, Saber just goes all in with defending his scum mate, despite not being in a favourable position. His scum mate doesn't really back him up from here and seems more like playing the odds. On the other hand, Poyser has some shading with Sparkles, which can help to create that separation they would need to convince the one Townie to vote me instead of Poyser (which doesn't seem to be particularly difficult) with Poyser having already laid the groundwork for his vote just in case he needs it. In this respect, I see a clearly plan in place than the former. Which is why I think that's the solution.

Sparkles is the common denominator in both worlds, hence why I'd vote her first.
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How do u explain the second kill then?
 
I did want to wait for Fuji to show up before I posted that because I really don't know how Saber would play as scum. So a lot of my read here is hinging on them not playing it like this.
 
i know for a fact there are 2 scum and 1 townie between poyser, ratchet, and sparkles
with both poyser and ratchet going after sparkles after realizing going after me wouldn't work, that pretty much seals the deal for me
 
Saber said:
i know for a fact there are 2 scum and 1 townie between poyser, ratchet, and sparkles
with both poyser and ratchet going after sparkles after realizing going after me wouldn't work, that pretty much seals the deal for me
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Why do you think it wouldn't work? Sparkles has it down to you and me as scum together - we could just vote you and get her to vote you to win. This is where I start to second guess myself - how is this even a thought you have?
 
Saber said:
she gave me those town vibes since early game and hasn't changed much in this DP like you and ratchet did, and she was the first one who seemed to consider going after someone other than me, you started doing so only after she did it
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Being consistent and unwavering in your reads when theres just been 4 town flips is more likely to come from scum than town, no?

Also the bottom bit makes no sense lmao. You are acting like I saw her go for someone other than you and then jumped at the chance to do the same, but... It was her I started considering
 
Saber said:
i know for a fact there are 2 scum and 1 townie between poyser, ratchet, and sparkles
with both poyser and ratchet going after sparkles after realizing going after me wouldn't work, that pretty much seals the deal for me
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this is incredibly bad faith

what on earth makes you think going after you wouldn't work?
 
Though I will say @Saber if "the deal is sealed", you may as well just vote me now. Don't even bother waiting for Fuji. No reason to hesitate here, if this is where the lines are drawn.
 
Ratchet said:
I don't understand what you mean by this.

Anyway, in terms of reads my inclination is leaning Poyser/Sparkles. I think Poyser won the logical argument with Saber. But throughout Saber has just come across as genuine to me, and the largest part is that Fuji, who is the only player properly familiar with Saber, has them as strong town.

If I had to vote now, I'd be voting Sparkles. From my perspective she's basically guaranteed scum. I don't believe Town have a Vig and that's it, and Poyser just fake claims Cop with Saber claiming roleblocker. That's not really a solve I'm likely to get to so if that is the case, I think it's well played.

So what I asked myself then was, who is playing for positional supremacy. I'm dealing with two worlds here - one is Saber/Sparkles, the other is Poyser/Sparkles. In the former, Saber just goes all in with defending his scum mate, despite not being in a favourable position. His scum mate doesn't really back him up from here and seems more like playing the odds. On the other hand, Poyser has some shading with Sparkles, which can help to create that separation they would need to convince the one Townie to vote me instead of Poyser (which doesn't seem to be particularly difficult) with Poyser having already laid the groundwork for his vote just in case he needs it. In this respect, I see a clearly plan in place than the former. Which is why I think that's the solution.

Sparkles is the common denominator in both worlds, hence why I'd vote her first.
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your solve here is basically saying one of me or saber have to be town based on you not thinking town only have a vig and thus dont think we both claim those roles etc

and then you say you're leaning to me being scum

which means your main solve is town having a vig and a roleblocker, and no cop lol? doesnt really seem like it makes much sense
 
Ratchet said:
Why do you think it wouldn't work? Sparkles has it down to you and me as scum together - we could just vote you and get her to vote you to win. This is where I start to second guess myself - how is this even a thought you have?
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she showed signs of reconsidering it when she said fair enough to my argument
and after giving it a second thought, you must have realized fuji wouldn't vote for me, but he would vote for sparkles, and maybe you could get me to vote her too, since the odds are a bit higher
 
Ratchet said:
Though I will say @Saber if "the deal is sealed", you may as well just vote me now. Don't even bother waiting for Fuji. No reason to hesitate here, if this is where the lines are drawn.
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remember when i told you i knew what you do as scum? it's this
it doesn't do anything for me tbh
 
Poyser said:
your solve here is basically saying one of me or saber have to be town based on you not thinking town only have a vig and thus dont think we both claim those roles etc

and then you say you're leaning to me being scum

which means your main solve is town having a vig and a roleblocker, and no cop lol? doesnt really seem like it makes much sense
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I don't think town have to have a cop here. If I get into setup spec, I think a 3 shot cop is a bit strange too, given the size of the game 2 shots would fit better. But my main considerations are outside of setup spec - it's just based on what I see as more plausible scum team play in this circumstance.

A Vig is just generally difficult to fit into my expectations of a game like this though, it's very swingy. But between that and some double kill, Vig is easier to reconcile.
 
Saber said:
she showed signs of reconsidering it when she said fair enough to my argument
and after giving it a second thought, you must have realized fuji wouldn't vote for me, but he would vote for sparkles, and maybe you could get me to vote her too, since the odds are a bit higher
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But I don't need Fuji to vote you lol. Would just need Poyser to convince Sparkles.
 
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