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Mxy is realistically actually infinite dimensional, or high 1-B in VSB's system. 5-D = Imagination = Bleedspace = Infinite multiverses, layers, and dimensions. 5-D =/= 5-D in a geometric sense. It's actually really similar to how the fifth dimension in Twin Peaks is infinite infinitely-dense energy levels and thus is technically infinite-D by VSB standards but still is "five dimensional."

But nope, VSB has declared 20-D hyperversal necrons defeat 5-D complex multiversal Mxy

Man, I get that they wanted a way to analyze things that went past "multiversal" but that word salad is some cancer shit :skully
 
Mxy is realistically actually infinite dimensional, or high 1-B in VSB's system. 5-D = Imagination = Bleedspace = Infinite multiverses, layers, and dimensions. 5-D =/= 5-D in a geometric sense. It's actually really similar to how the fifth dimension in Twin Peaks is infinite infinitely-dense energy levels and thus is technically infinite-D by VSB standards but still is "five dimensional."

But nope, VSB has declared 20-D hyperversal necrons defeat 5-D complex multiversal Mxy
time for 9D Bayformers that solo DC :kobeha




god what a shitshow


i wonder if a truly consistent tiering system can ever exist anywhere
 
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on paper vsb’s way to use higher infinities strictly would actually make sense but they don’t follow it like they should so you end up with this bullshit
 
Yeah you’ll never beat the simple scailing

Dimensional lingo is cancer imo
Simple scaling kind of falls apart when you want to compare anyone above infinite multiversal which happens really quick for most major verses that deal with them. Like even for DC? A single space-time Continuum is already infinite multiverse due to containing infinitely diverging timelines. Ditto with Marvel where a single universe has infinite realities/planes of existence. Or Doctor Who.

on paper vsb’s way to use higher infinities strictly would actually make sense but they don’t follow it like they should so you end up with this bullshit
This

Something like Warhammer 40k should only be multiversal for the god tiers only in the warp with their true form but they manage to wank it to high heaven, meanwhile they've nuked DC to the ground.
 
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Simple scaling kind of falls apart when you want to compare anyone above infinite multiversal which happens really quick for most major verses that deal with them. Like even for DC? A single space-time Continuum is already infinite multiverse due to containing infinitely diverging timelines. Ditto with Marvel where a single universe has infinite realities/planes of existence. Or Doctor Who.
yeah everything beyond multiversal+ is kind of a madman’s game. I realized recently transformers universes have an uncountable infinity of branch universes for just one timeline. Like what the hell do you even do with that shit? I get why nobody wants to touch it, the fun part of the hobby disappears and it just becomes mathematical jargon very few people understand (I am definitely NOT one of them), but I hope eventually a better system will be ironed out somewhere
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Something like Warhammer 40k should only be multiversal for the god tiers only in the warp with their true form but they manage to wank it to high heaven, meanwhile they've nuked DC to the ground.
the DC downplay is such nonsense, idk if I necessarily agreed with how high they placed the writer, but hardcapping DC at 5D obviously doesn’t make any sense at all even to people not super familiar with the material. I wish I understood the math angle better because there’s got to be another way to make a system consistent but that also takes into account that different cosmologies work differently.
 
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Next is Cole vs Alex
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Far as Unicron vs Galactus goes I figured you guys might be interested in this if you're ever bored out of your fucking mind and wanna read some toy robot bullshit lore

After several years, I have compiled every piece of information about the transformers cosmology that I know, and how it works into the opening post. There are citations for every single chapter I drew information from, tons of scans, quotes, etc. As far as I know, it is the first fully comprehensive transformers cosmology blog on the internet. I'm a fucking idiot and an insane person for doing this. If you are ever extremely bored and want to know how far down the rabbit hole goes, you can now read it all here. There might be some extremely minor things to add, like more context on Unspace or something, but the major points are here, and more importantly they aren't anywhere else.


 
So from what I’ve seen online Cole vs Alex is pretty much a statstomp for the former except for the slim chance Alex can infect Cole with the virus somehow. Stats vs hax basically.
 
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