despite who i want to win im betting on DB giving it to Galactus
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OrlandoSky
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How legit are VBW’s highlight feats for Unicron?
-Devoured and absorbed the previous iteration of Transformers’ multiverse
-was never defeated by the thirteen so he power-scales from the True Star Saber (that was said to be able to collapse the entire multiverse) and the Terminus Blade (that’s said to destroy and merge several universes together)
-Is said to be the most dangerous threat in the TF multiverse and should be superior to the Hytherion (that eat timelines)
-inhabits the same level of existence as Vector Prime and the Alternity whose true forms dwarve universes. Vector Prime also admitting he is fodder to him in a Q&A
-power-scales from his herald Ramjet who uses the power of dead universes and equal to Vector Prime
-Infinite speed (exists beyond linear time and the space-time of the multiverse should also be comparable to Vector Prime and the Chronoarchitect who are similar)
How legit are VBW’s highlight feats for Unicron?
-Devoured and absorbed the previous iteration of Transformers’ multiverse
-was never defeated by the thirteen so he power-scales from the True Star Saber (that was said to be able to collapse the entire multiverse) and the Terminus Blade (that’s said to destroy and merge several universes together)
-Is said to be the most dangerous threat in the TF multiverse and should be superior to the Hytherion (that eat timelines)
-inhabits the same level of existence as Vector Prime and the Alternity whose true forms dwarve universes. Vector Prime also admitting he is fodder to him in a Q&A
-power-scales from his herald Ramjet who uses the power of dead universes and equal to Vector Prime
-Infinite speed (exists beyond linear time and the space-time of the multiverse should also be comparable to Vector Prime and the Chronoarchitect who are similar)
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these are all legit, if anything they’re comservative estimates. VSB’s current Unicron page is based on a revision I helped them do in 2021, but there was tons of material I wasn’t aware of at the time which I haven’t brought back to that forum yet
the only thing way off on VSB’s TF pages I am aware of is they gave Ramjet the “hyperversal” scaling last I checked because they misunderstood how singularity characters work. Ramjet is universe+, Vector Prime’s power varies depending on what avatar he’s using, which is what Ramjet fought
@Derpmaster9000 so wut was said with the Kryptonians vs Saiyans shit in the QnA
Unless I'm mistaken, he said they didn't want to do any more of them, until Goku vs Superman 3 was out of the way. As for after? They could, from what I could tell, but Ben just said it is something they could do in the future, and not something they would.
Personally, I think that was him leaving the door open for a potential Gohan MU against either Superboy(either version, Jon or Connor) or Supergirl/Powergirl, which...
Yeah... I don't want to see that shit.
So stillUnless I'm mistaken, he said they didn't want to do any more of them, until Goku vs Superman 3 was out of the way. As for after? They could, from what I could tell, but Ben just said it is something they could do in the future, and not something they would.
Personally, I think that was him leaving the door open for a potential Gohan MU against either Superboy(either version, Jon or Connor) or Supergirl/Powergirl, which... Aww
Gonna need Ultraguy coming thru
sick of DB vs Capeshit Goku vs Superman 3 should be the final chapter after that leave fucking dead nobody cares about it afterwards OrlandoSky
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Just want to throw in my two cents that upgrading their view on dc cosmology based on a planck expansion as a constant is dumb as hell. As is giving existence erasure resistance to anyone who survives Darkseid’s omega beams because of his cis jobbing. The former in particular dc will just win most cosmology measuring contests now. Also the DB cosmology expansion because of an off-handed comment Videl made in a fillet episode
Pretty much it feels boring unless its Marvel there against
whats the planck expansion thing? cant remember if ive seen that or not
This scaling is off because being “one of the 50 heroes Antimoniter absorbed to destroy the universe” includes fucking Blue Beetle and Batman. It’s not a Universal+ feat if the energy absorbed is arbitrary
OrlandoSky
Paramount
Basically it's the expansion rate of the universe when it was born. It
Their point that the DCU is 1.62e+63 times the size of our universe because of the statement in Our Worlds at War because it expanded at "over 60 trillion light-years in a half second." is inaccurate because the universe doesn't expand on a fixed rate, the speed changes per distance. The universe expanded at a speed much greater than light when the big bang first expanded the universe from the size of the tennis ball and is generally why characters who can react or outrun the big bang (like Wally and Fate's helmet) were calced at quintillions of times FTL instead of just lightspeed.
"adamsolomon" goes into great detail about it here
The Early Universe
Cosmologists know that the universe is expanding now, and extrapolate this expansion backwards in time in order to study what the early universe was like. About 13.75 billion years ago, all of the co…
lco.global 
Approximately how fast did the universe expand, within the first second of the Big Bang?
Answer (1 of 6): Just to add on the great anwsers already: The first second of the Big Bang is theorised to include inflation instead of a more standed expansion modal. To quote: The Physics of the Universe “By some calculations, inflation increased the size of the universe by a factor of arou...
It all depends on where they get the info from.
We know there composting Unicron