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Claudio Swiss said:
Also back on this apparently Nolan gonna be at dwarf/small star via this feat in question
Some ship blew up the solar disk
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Has it actually been calced? What is the context? How thick is this disc?
 
Meh, it seems very one off with no further elaboration. Here is my rough calc being generous. It takes place in Invincible #67 and without looking deeper it does seem to be something quickly mentioned and then forgotten.

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Star = 50 pixels = 1,391,000 km
Solar Disk = 82 pixels = 2,281,240 km
Radius = 1,140,620 km

We don't know the thickness, I will assume a low, mid, and high end of 1000 kilometers, 10,000 kilometers, and 100,000 kilometers

(pi(1,140,620 km)^2 * 1000 km) = 4.087256e15 km^3
(pi(1,140,620 km)^2 * 10,000 km) = 4.087256e16 km^3
(pi(1,140,620 km)^2 * 100,000 km) = 4.087256e17 km^3

This is a disk, not a planet, so I can't use GBE. I will assume 'totally destroyed' means atomized. I will assume it's made of Carbon Fiber, which means atomization equals 156,545 joules/cubic centimeter

  • Low End: (pi(1,140,620 km)^2 * 1000 km) = 4.087256e15 km^3 * 156,545 joules/cubic centimeter = 6.398395e35 joules
  • Mid End: (pi(1,140,620 km)^2 * 10,000 km) = 4.087256e16 km^3 * 156,545 joules/cubic centimeter = 6.398395e36 joules
  • High End: (pi(1,140,620 km)^2 * 100,000 km) = 4.087256e17 km^3 * 156,545 joules/cubic centimeter = 6.398395e37 joules

And, being generous, let's assume Nolan is 100x higher than this and then round up:

  • Low End: 6.398395e35 joules * 100 = 6.398395e37 joules --> 1e38 joules
  • Mid End: 6.398395e36 joules * 100 = 6.398395e38 joules --> 1e39 joules
  • High End: 6.398395e37 joules * 100 = 6.398395e39 joules --> 1e40 joules
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Dragon Ball Z: King Vegeta destroys Planets Recalc

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For comparison, VSB has Bardock scale to King Vegeta who is between 6.000245e37 and 7.553202e39 joules. At best, Nolan might be more powerful than SSJ Bardock here if you use the low end for Bardock and use the high end for Omniman scaling here, but I am being very generous. The reality is the low end for Bardock's scaling here would be a hair's weaker than the high end of what Omniman scales to here, and that's in base.

Also quite frankly I grossly exaggerated the calc assuming the atomization of carbon.
 
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Maddie said:
Meh, it seems very one off with no further elaboration. Here is my rough calc being generous. It takes place in Invincible #67 and without looking deeper it does seem to be something quickly mentioned and then forgotten.

Quick_Invincible_Calc.png


Star = 50 pixels = 1,391,000 km
Solar Disk = 82 pixels = 2,281,240 km
Radius = 1,140,620 km

We don't know the thickness, I will assume a low, mid, and high end of 1000 kilometers, 10,000 kilometers, and 100,000 kilometers

(pi(1,140,620 km)^2 * 1000 km) = 4.087256e15 km^3
(pi(1,140,620 km)^2 * 10,000 km) = 4.087256e16 km^3
(pi(1,140,620 km)^2 * 100,000 km) = 4.087256e17 km^3

This is a disk, not a planet, so I can't use GBE. I will assume 'totally destroyed' means atomized. I will assume it's made of Carbon Fiber, which means atomization equals 156,545 joules/cubic centimeter

  • Low End: (pi(1,140,620 km)^2 * 1000 km) = 4.087256e15 km^3 * 156,545 joules/cubic centimeter = 6.398395e35 joules
  • Mid End: (pi(1,140,620 km)^2 * 10,000 km) = 4.087256e16 km^3 * 156,545 joules/cubic centimeter = 6.398395e36 joules
  • High End: (pi(1,140,620 km)^2 * 100,000 km) = 4.087256e17 km^3 * 156,545 joules/cubic centimeter = 6.398395e37 joules

And, being generous, let's assume Nolan is 100x higher than this and then round up:

  • Low End: 6.398395e35 joules * 100 = 6.398395e37 joules --> 1e38 joules
  • Mid End: 6.398395e36 joules * 100 = 6.398395e38 joules --> 1e39 joules
  • High End: 6.398395e37 joules * 100 = 6.398395e39 joules --> 1e40 joules
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Dragon Ball Z: King Vegeta destroys Planets Recalc

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For comparison, VSB has Bardock scale to King Vegeta who is between 6.000245e37 and 7.553202e39 joules. At best, Nolan might be more powerful than SSJ Bardock here if you use the low end for Bardock and use the high end for Omniman scaling here, but I am being very generous. The reality is the low end for Bardock's scaling here would be a hair's weaker than the high end of what Omniman scales to here, and that's in base.

Also quite frankly I grossly exaggerated the calc assuming the atomization of carbon.
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So going by the high end of King Vegeta feat Bardock still takes correct
 
Claudio Swiss said:
So going by the high end of King Vegeta feat Bardock still takes correct
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I grotesquely wanked this calc and then multiplied it by 100x to scale it to Omniman and even then it's only 3x higher than SSJ Bardock... for the low end of the King Vegeta calc. Mid end and high end calcs for King Vegeta still are stronger when SSJ. And that is once again after I was as generous as possible for Nolan here. I doubt they were atomizing a disc made of carbon fiber.

How advanced is Telestrian tech? Would titanium be a more accurate material?
 
I think the calc is further exaggerated on my end because the disk doesn't even need to be the size of the star. Given the distance between the planet to the disk, and the disk to the star. It just has to be sufficiently large enough to force a total eclipse for long enough.
 
I am making a blog regarding MC's speed because that has contention. I'm conservative in this topic and I'll give my arguments as reasonably and strongly as possible.
 
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