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Death Battle Discussion

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Reminder the subreddits of both Jojo and Persona were completely convinced they were going to lose because they only had the context for their guy and the general internet gossip (i.e. hilarious wank) for the other one :skully
 
One of the sleeper abilities that Bowser has in his arsenal is the Double Cherry, an item from 3D world that creates a duplicate of whoever uses it, but the clones disappear when they receive a damaging blow.

What makes the item so potent is that it stacks with other power-ups including itself. So the cherries can be stacked to have several clones moving about at once, and if one clone received a power-up then that also transfers over to all of the duplicates. Bowser uses the cherries with the cat suit to have about 6 Cat Bowsers attacking at once during the final boss fight.

I'm not sure how much the Death Battle will touch upon it, but the ability to have several Bowsers in play at once should be a major advantage for his army especially if he stacks it with some of his more impressive power-ups over the series. Kameks also have transmutation which most of Eggman's machines won't have a built in defense against, since magic just isn't something he's had to face off against much. Not much is stopping them from turning the robot henchmen of Robotnik into more allies or power-ups for Bowser.
 
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What do you think of this? Some of these I feel are acting as if the character has prep. Cause I cannot see Rick, Ant-Man or Captain Atom devising a counter-measure in a first-time encounter with no knowledge.

Yeah I think those are a bit of a stretch, MMH also seems like a weird one unless I’m missing something major about how he works?


nitpicky but I know they meant Unicron in general but the pic they used is one of the weakest versions that actually could not bypass it lol.

Megatron it depends on the version. Golden Megatron and up should have the reality warping and temporal abilities to surpass it.
 
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What do you think of this? Some of these I feel are acting as if the character has prep. Cause I cannot see Rick, Ant-Man or Captain Atom devising a counter-measure in a first-time encounter with no knowledge.

Ash Ketchum
Debatable

Dawg come on now.

Hulk
MV Godzilla
The Doctor
Rick

Bro come on now what the fuck are we doing
 
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Bro come on now what the fuck are we doing
With Hulk I imagine people are just assuming because he’s “Herald Level” he scales to all the hax resistances characters like Silver Surfer has. Still pretty dumb though because you can’t really scale hax resistance to other characters, they either show they have the resistance or they don’t have it.

The Doctor though. You might be able to find some stuff for him to resist with his timelord physiology. But only the Tardis itself gives him any chance offensively.
 
aside from Unicron threatening to destroy everything, the silver matrixes each have the power of a universe/big bang. Optimus uses one to become Star Convoy and defeats the Vok with it. Primus may have killed a version of Megatron with one (this single iteration of Primus doesn't seem to be that strong without his matrixes). The goal of the story is for one person to successfully create a universe in their image, which becomes the G1 universe (the japanese one anyways).

So feats range from universal all the way up to omniversal in Unicron's cas

just found out in the japanese Transformers Selects manga post-Shroud Unicron was still destroying the entire multiverse, so even a weakened Unicron is still omniversal. Shouldn't lose to base Galactus in either form
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wasn't the Japanese Multiverse seperate from the main Transformers Multiverse? and iirc Star Power Optimus at the end of the Generation Selects line did defeated the Japanese version of Unicron in the 2011 G1 era.
 
wasn't the Japanese Multiverse seperate from the main Transformers Multiverse? and iirc Star Power Optimus at the end of the Generation Selects line did defeated the Japanese version of Unicron in the 2011 G1 era.
I haven’t found anything indicating it’s outside of the “main multiverse” , unless you mean Japanese G1 continuity being separate from American G1, which is definitely true but they aren’t in different or inaccessible cosmologies or anything like that. Galvatron II from Marvel’s timeline appears in the manga, you can also look back at things like Alternity where both english and jp timelines were accessed by those characters, and the Nemesis Prime that appears in Alternity is the same one who hd previously been in the Cybertron comic Balancing Act. I believe they’re all just classified as different Primax universes, some more related to each other than others.

Unicron does get beaten at a few different points in the manga iirc (I’d have to go back and check specifics tho), the most recent time I remember involved Primus getting involved or something?
 
that said both those posts are from 2021 and I learned a lot more since then and probably wouldn’t word them the same way now lol. I have a relatively thorough breakdown of Transformers cosmology to the best of my ability in this thread though for more recent opinions

 
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I haven’t found anything indicating it’s outside of the “main multiverse” , unless you mean Japanese G1 continuity being separate from American G1, which is definitely true but they aren’t in different or inaccessible cosmologies or anything like that. Galvatron II from Marvel’s timeline appears in the manga, you can also look back at things like Alternity where both english and jp timelines were accessed by those characters, and the Nemesis Prime that appears in Alternity is the same one who hd previously been in the Cybertron comic Balancing Act. I believe they’re all just classified as different Primax universes, some more related to each other than others.

Unicron does get beaten at a few different points in the manga iirc (I’d have to go back and check specifics tho), the most recent time I remember involved Primus getting involved or something?
ahh ic, thank you so much for the help
 
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