Death Battle Discussion

Masterblack06 said:

Everyone she kisses also dies. Woman is a whole ass curse

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Welll fortunatly for US Simon never kissed her

what is bro talking about

didn't DB have them get washed every single matchup

Except Broly VS Hulk but that is more on bullshit for how they treated Hulk

I tried looking for all the "infinite dimensional" statements in DC:

Rama Kushna's statement of Innumerable Dimensions to Deadman in DC Universe Presents #2 (2011): "There are innumerable dimensions. This one exists just two steps removed from your own. But you no more understand it than a mosquito understands the bottom of the ocean. You stand upon a platform composed of solid gravity. Time in this place is no longer an abstract -- it is a malleable force that plugs gaps in the universal fabric."

For context Rama Kushna is a being within the Sphere of the Gods, which technically is actually "2 dimensions" removed from Deadman's universe if we consider universe/multiverse --> Bleedpace --> Godsphere. This thus would still be referring to governing layers of the DCU, not the local universe/multiverse.

The Wanderer's statements of Infinite Dimensions in Larfleeze #3 (September, 2013), Larfleeze #4 (October, 2013), and Larfleeze #5 (November 2013):

From Larfleeze #3: "I have the ability to see into the past and the future... Into parallel worlds and boundless dimensions. It can get a little confusing sometimes. Oh, yes. I sailed through the cosmic rubble for thousands of years, and then I found the anomal... What you call the creation point --- the nexus where one dimension terminates -- and another begins. Flying too close, I was sucked into the fiery heart of the point -- tumbling through life and non-life... annihilation and rebirth... Finally finding myself -- in your dimension. I couldn't wait to tell the others about what I'd found! Here perhaps, the house of Tuath-Dan could roam for all eternity -- each of us claiming our own corners of this vast, virgin universe!"

From Larfleeze #4, by The Wanderer: "When you've spent billions of years seeing into the past and the future -- parallel worlds and infinite dimensions -- the mind tends to fragment a little. It gets harder and harder to pay attention to what you're--"

From Larfleeze #5, by The Wanderer: "As I've explained before, my consciousness exists both in past and present... Across parallel worlds and infinite dimensions ---- which makes it a little hard to focus on the here and now."

Now in my opinion just looking at the statements it doesn't apply to the dimensionality of the multiverse, but let's ask an AI:

Deepseek says said:

The statements from DC Comics regarding "dimensions" primarily refer to layers of existence, parallel universes, or metaphysical planes within the DC cosmology rather than mathematical/spatial dimensionality (e.g., 3D vs. 4D+). Here's a breakdown:

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1. Rama Kushna's Statement (DC Universe Presents #2)​

• Context: The Sphere of the Gods is described as "two steps removed" from the physical universe/multiverse (via Bleedspace). This is a hierarchical separationof metaphysical realms, not spatial dimensions.
  • The "innumerable dimensions" likely refer to the myriad planes of existence within the DC cosmology (e.g., Heaven, Hell, Dreaming, New Genesis/Apokolips). These are distinct realms with unique physical laws (e.g., "solid gravity," malleable time).
  • Not Spatial Dimensions: The Sphere of the Gods exists as a higher "layer" of reality, not as a higher-dimensional space. Its separation is qualitative (governing laws, metaphysical nature) rather than quantitative (dimensional axes).

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2. The Wanderer's Statements (Larfleeze #3–5)​

• Parallel Worlds vs. Infinite Dimensions: The Wanderer conflates "parallel worlds" and "infinite dimensions," suggesting the latter refers to alternate universeswithin the multiverse. For example:
  • "Creation points" and "nexus" between dimensions imply transitions between universes (like the Bleed in DC, which separates universes).
  • "Infinite dimensions" here likely means infinite parallel universes, not infinite spatial dimensions. This aligns with DC's established infinite multiverse (pre- and post-Crisis frameworks).
  • Temporal/Perceptual Context: The Wanderer’s fractured consciousness across "past, present, and parallel worlds" emphasizes omnipresence across timelines and realities, not spatial dimensionality.

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Key Takeaways​

• Cosmological Layers, Not Spatial Dimensions: Both quotes emphasize hierarchical realms (Sphere of the Gods) and multiversal scope (infinite universes). Neither implies the DC multiverse is infinite-dimensional in a geometric/mathematical sense.
• "Dimension" in Comics Terminology: In DC (and comics generally), "dimension" often refers to alternate realities (e.g., Earth-1, Earth-2) or metaphysical planes (e.g., Heaven, Speed Force), not spatial axes. This usage is distinct from scientific "dimensionality."
• Infinite Multiverse ≠ Infinite Spatial Dimensions: An infinite multiverse (infinite universes) does not require or imply infinite spatial dimensions. Each universe in DC is typically 3D/4D (with time), and the multiverse is a collection of these universes.

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Conclusion​

These statements do not support the idea of the DC multiverse being infinite-dimensional in spatial terms. Instead, they reinforce the infinite scope of parallel universes and the layered structure of DC's cosmology (physical multiverse → Bleedspace → Sphere of the Gods). "Dimensions" here are narrative constructs for alternate realities or metaphysical tiers, not mathematical dimensions.

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Can someone give me the 20-D Simon statement?

Maddie said:

Can someone give me the 20-D Simon statement?

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戦力 プラス 納得 力 2つ の 力 を 20次元 に ねじ曲げ て 勝利 を 掴む ハゲ が 吠える 位 インフィニティ ビッグ モンスター な。 パワー だ。 宇宙 創 生 の 業火 に 焼か れ、 DNA の 1片 まで 完全 消滅 じゃ ない わ。 この ハゲ ヒゲ 胸毛 が どこ か で 聞い た よう な セリフ を 吐き おっ て だ が、 この 納得 力 は 半端 で は ない。 いけ ない。 この まま で は グレート グレンラガン が 焼き 尽くさ れる は。 上 の 野郎。 何 が 芽生 の 担任 だ。 大きな 口 ばかり 叩き や がっ て。

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It's an Infinity Big Monster that can twist the two forces into 20 dimensions and grab victory, making the bald roar. It's power. Not even a single piece of DNA was completely destroyed by the inferno of the creation of the universe. This bald man with a beard and chest hair was spouting a line that sounded like he had heard it somewhere before, but it was far from convincing. should not. If things continue like this, the Great Gurren Lagann will be burnt to the ground. The bastard above. Who is Mei's homeroom teacher? Eventually, he started hitting me with a big mouth.

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CrossTheHorizon said:

Yeah sure

Except

The preview was his Green Lantern stuff

And not even the best of that

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White Lantern is a bit overhyped. It really isn't too greatly more impressive than Green Lanterns, it's not like ontologically superior. It gives life manipulation, about it, Simon has that too.

The real test of bullshit is the Life Equation

CrossTheHorizon said:

Idk, comics might deserve it if that 12.3 dimensional thing is real

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The statement is legit, the big bang thing is not. Kyle was holding back some of the leaking energies from Imperiex who was only big ban level via chain reaction later on. This has been debunked for almost 7 years now. Insane they still bring it up.

So, we have Kyle at 12.333D, they'll likely pull some infinite D bs despite the evidence being scant

Simon at 20D, but there are arguments for beyond dimensional

There is hope to summarise

Masterblack06 said:

Throw all that shit in the trash, I hate seeing it

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Don't be bitching when the thread is currently discussing is literally Simon vs Kyle and Death Battle themselves already made the first shot using dimensional tiering, just mute it until the fight is over then.

Worth pointing out they didnt use "dimensional tiering" in the way VSBW does, just mentioned DC has 12.3 dimensions as a base

How they'll apply it is still up in the air and is probably more a way to shut down those arguments than anything.