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This means no Tick scaling right?

Gonna repost this for reminder if they ever do Omnidock

This would mean the following for Bardock vs Omni-Man.

I will say this real quick. We cannot exactly scale much for speed with Piccolo's feat beyond what happened. However one thing I could say is that Goku trained under 10x gravity. Gravity formula is nonsense but his powerlevel increased 20-fold and his attack potency went from being comparable to Piccolo's moon-bust (13.46 yottatons in the anime) to at least not being too far behind King Vegeta's planet bust (1.8 tenatons), even ignoring bigbloat calcs he went from moon busting (~29 exatons) to 1/3 Earth Busting (~18 zettatons), so a massive boost in the hundreds to thousands for AP. Gravity obviously increases speed too; that was one thing everyone noticed after Goku did 100x gravity training on Namek, and IIRC Nappa in the anime noted how he felt much faster and more free on Earth's low gravity. I really don't think it would be too risky to say he became at least 10x faster after King Kai's gravity training. It doesn't feel too controversial to say that. And for Bardock vs Omni-Man, you can give Bardock all the speed multipliers you want it really doesn't matter in the end as Omni-Man's high end is still way faster so I don't feel it would be bad to slap a 10x multiplier.

Bardock
-Attack Potency: 1.8 Tenatons (Base), 90.1 Tenatons (SSJ)
-Speed: ⪆4.27 x FTL (Base), 213.5 x FTL (SSJ)
-Experience: He looks a bit older than Goku for most of Z, maybe in his 40s, given his low ranking status he probably has fought for his whole life. So probably 30-50 years of combat experience.
-Range: Planetary range

Omni-Man
-Attack Potency: 27.884 Zettatons (No-Crossovers)
-Speed: 41.25 x FTL (No-Crossovers)
-Experience: Over 2000 years of combat experience
-Range: Several kilometers
Looks like Nolan is going to be vaporized
 
Huh

Seems to be casting Kratos as the MC here? Which is weird because not only is this horribly lopsided against him, but.....Asura is like the good guy version of old Kratos who despite his rage never harmed and even instinctively protected the innocent?

It SHOULD be. But unfortunately I'm pretty sure they buy all the lore wank going off of the Deathbattle Cast they did for the match a while back.



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Actually, powerwise, Nolan is even more screwed than I thought without the Tick scaling bringing him in the low Yottatons

Vs Battles did a better calculation of the Viltrum feat:


Nolan: 0.567 Zettatons of TNT

At the bare, absolute bare minimum, Bardock in his base form approaches 10,000 while Kaio-Ken x3 Goku = Vegeta's planet busting Galick Gun, or 59.44 Zettatons. Base Goku would be 19.81 Zettatons therefore Bardock is a little further than that. Base Bardock at the lowest end in this matchup is over 34x more powerful than Nolan.

And of course Bardock is more powerful than that because this will be anime scaling.
 
It SHOULD be. But unfortunately I'm pretty sure they buy all the lore wank going off of the Deathbattle Cast they did for the match a while back.



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Sure, that's the only way to justify the fight, but Asura's lore should still be bigger by a significant margin. Like Asura straight up kills the concept of Mantra by the end of the story.
 
What is DC put at for White Lantern? Is he Godsphere level? Would that be outer?

For Simon, remember that the Anti Spiral Realm is its own pocket dimension that exists between the 10th and 11th dimension, and Gurenn Lagann works as a brane cosmology where our 3-D universe is an infinitely flat sheet on the greater 4-D Branespace which is a flat sheet on the 5-D, etc.

The final clash between the STTGL and Super Granzeboma destroyed infinite universes, but these universes would have been the 10-11D composite universes most likely?

The very final skirmish between Simon and Anti-Spiral seem to transcend that all and be a plane of pure thought and ideas, imagination. IIRC it said this clash transcended dimensions or space-time or something.

@Stocking Anarchy Would you be able to clarify? Did I get the cosmology right?
 
@Maddie just curious, how accurate is this dc cosmology breakdown?

it seemed very comprehensive and probably the best I've personally seen, but vsb in their infinite wisdom....didn't use it in favor of capping the setting at 1C?????? Can't say I understand that
 
Huh

Seems to be casting Kratos as the MC here? Which is weird because not only is this horribly lopsided against him, but.....Asura is like the good guy version of old Kratos who despite his rage never harmed and even instinctively protected the innocent?
They've already established years ago that they buy into the Universe+ level God of War wank
 
Yeah Toei Bardock completely vaporizes Nolan.

Ain't no question where this goes. Even the saiyan saga in the anime had a star level feat. Giving SSJ on top of that means that he scales to anyone under and possible including First Form Frieza. Employing calc stacking into that factor like we know they're going to do, Nolan has no chance of wincons, even the Toei saiyans could breathe in space too so he won't even get that benefit.
 
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