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Usually don't watch DB but I was pushed to viewing this one.

They definitely put a ton of effort into their analysis (albeit I disagree with some things) and especially the amazing animation. Definitely a good youtube format (albeit I heard that is not their normal quality).

Kudos that they also got the 'right winner'.
 
Shadow with a Chaos Spear was able to knock Super Neo Metal Sonic out of his Super Form
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so unquestionably yes he’s stronger than Super Neo

Alternate Ending in their vid showed that Time Eater gets Countered by the Dream Bowser.

Every move Eggman has, Bowser has a counter or an equivalent basically

Eggman doesn’t directly scale to Solaris either way, it just argued weirdly that fhey were equivalent in a >= with solaris advantage
Again everything you are saying is irrelevant. They themselves put neo metal at Solaris level . Doesn't matter if he got hurt by something weaker so has bowser, he got beaten by luigi and mario in his dreamy form so stop saying its "unquestionable". The point I am trying to make and saying is that they said that Solaris scaling would make the emeralds stronger but it doesn't matter cause bowser had more grandstars. So where they arguing that bowser is multi universal and upscaled from the main feat they showed?
 
Again everything you are saying is irrelevant. They themselves put neo metal at Solaris level . Doesn't matter if he got hurt by something weaker so has bowser, he got beaten by luigi and mario in his dreamy form so stop saying its "unquestionable". The point I am trying to make and saying is that they said that Solaris scaling would make the emeralds stronger but it doesn't matter cause bowser had more grandstars. So where they arguing that bowser is multi universal and upscaled from the main feat they showed?

No. As has been said multiple times, Solaris was just a means of scaling the emeralds. Also I just watched it to check, and all they say is that the emeralds are "arguably" stronger via Solaris scaling, and Solaris only got universal from them anyway.

The Chaos Emeralds and Grand Stars aren't even the really big guns that DB mentions getting potentially multiversal scaling, those are Time Eater, Paradox Prism (idk what that is), and the Pure/Chaos Hearts.

DB's conclusion was that the really big game-changer moves for both sides canceled each other out and thus they rated it as a tie. They both had access to shit above the Stars and Emeralds at roughly equal potential and thus the deciding factors were elsewhere.
 
Their argument was: Gamechangers like the Emeralds, Stars, and other shit largely canceled each other out, and while Eggman was smarter, Bowser had better stats, more versatile hax, and his army was superior. So they gave it to Bowser.

It was not "Bowser is absolutely above the Emeralds or Time Eater or whatever", it was "Bowser has shit that could probably match or beat them so we'll set them aside to consider other factors"
 
Paradox Prism (idk what that is)


Here you go, it's basically more Multiversal nonsense.

But yeah, otherwise what you stated is correct as Bowser tends to have alot more BS Multiversal objects in his possession or he had(primarily Paper Mario)
 
No. As has been said multiple times, Solaris was just a means of scaling the emeralds. Also I just watched it to check, and all they say is that the emeralds are "arguably" stronger via Solaris scaling, and Solaris only got universal from them anyway.

The Chaos Emeralds and Grand Stars aren't even the really big guns that DB mentions getting potentially multiversal scaling, those are Time Eater, Paradox Prism (idk what that is), and the Pure/Chaos Hearts.

DB's conclusion was that the really big game-changer moves for both sides canceled each other out and thus they rated it as a tie. They both had access to shit above the Stars and Emeralds at roughly equal potential and thus the deciding factors were elsewhere.
My dude they put them stronger because they put Solaris above universal, they literally put emphasis to "consume all timelines". The point that I am asking again is it by their logic the emeralds and sonic super forms are stronger than mario super forms or do they also think that bowser upscales universal because he had more grandstars. Like how many grandstars did it take to destroy his universe and how many more did he have
 
My dude they put them stronger because they put Solaris above universal, they literally put emphasis to "consume all timelines". The point that I am asking again is it by their logic the emeralds and sonic super forms are stronger than mario super forms or do they also think that bowser upscales universal because he had more grandstars. Like how many grandstars did it take to destroy his universe and how many more did he have

No, they literally say in their ending summary that the emeralds could "arguably" scale higher, but both were rated as universal. And again, they were not the biggest guns. The point was that they canceled each other out.

And the part where they said there were more of them was including all the other collectables like moons and shine sprites, which have their own powers anyway.
 
people on tiktok asking why they didnt bring in the other metal robots that eggman made

Niggas its cause none of those goofballs come close to Metal Sonic, the fuck you think Metal Knuckles is gonna do
 
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