Espada vs Sternritters

[Crimson Dragoon]

Also Royd’s there

the guy who is at least on par with Shikai Yama ha

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

No shingami could scratch stenritter beyond yamamato

Kenpachi killed loyld
And ichigo beat up quilge, so clearly you have zero idea what your talking about

I like how you just blotted out the rest of my sentence like Adamant Soul stated...

Same ichigo also needed bankai for ebern
An arrancar without a ressurectiom

He didn't need Bankai for Ebern, Ebern literally goaded him into using Bankai and Ichigo simply obliged. By comparison, Ichigo popped Bankai against Quilge when he couldn't do anything about Volstandigt so is Ebern > Quilge by your logic?

And harrbel aint exactly a top tier espada like uqiorra,grimmjow and yammy

Nothing has proved that R2 Ulquirroa is stronger than any other Espada, not a single fucking time.

 

[Vespa Crabro]

Also Royd’s there

the guy who is at least on par with Shikai Yama ha

James powerbombs barragan gg

 

[Bob74h]

He didn't need Bankai for Ebern, Ebern literally goaded him into using Bankai and Ichigo simply obliged. By comparison, Ichigo popped Bankai against Quilge when he couldn't do anything about Volstandigt so is Ebern > Quilge by your logic?

He used it versus ebern and still the guy tanked the attacks of that ichigo and dodged them from time to time

And no dont exactly think quilge is weaker then ebern was just making fun of your argument, If keeping up with TYBW bankai ichigo is your claim here then hell you can even make the argument yhwach is as strong as quilge but im a logical man so im going based on potrayal and scaling to other characters not if ichigo fights someone or not

Yhwach is the leader of the quincy and they see him as majesty also he's shown to casually slice apart yamamoto who was struggling with his minion royld
There you go, Scaled yhwach in just the couple episodes of the anime out without having to use the horrible metric which would be

Nothing has proved that R2 Ulquirroa is stronger than any other Espada, not a single fucking time.

His on screen feats do

Also Royd’s there

the guy who is at least on par with Shikai Yama ha

Wonderweiss did the same thing

So that proves nothing infact aizen's minion did better then royld did

 

[Adamant soul]

Wonderweiss, did better than fucking ROYD? ha

Wonderweiss got BLITZED and TWO-SHOTTED by BASE Yamamoto (not even Shikai Yamamoto).
Royd not only could keep up with Shikai Yamamoto but dispersed his Shikai flames with a single sword swing.

Bob really can't help but lie his fucking ass off can he?

 

[Crimson Dragoon]

James powerbombs barragan gg

Mask gives R2 Ulq a diamond cutter

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

He used it versus ebern and still the guy tanked the attacks of that ichigo and dodged them from time to time

>Arm gets wrecked and he couldn't even see Ichigo blindside him
Yeah, Ebern was doing fine against Bankai Ichigo...

And no dont exactly think quilge is weaker then ebern was just making fun of your argument, If keeping up with TYBW bankai ichigo is your claim here then hell you can even make the argument yhwach is as strong as quilge but im a logical man so im going based on potrayal and scaling to other characters not if ichigo fights someone or not

The anime came out and the manga also showed Volstandigt Quilge with an Ayon powerup(who was able to injure him at that) couldn't do fucking dick to Bankai Ichigo. The same person on who is on the same level as the other Sternritter who the Captains couldn't even injure even with Shikai and need Bankai... WITHOUT needing their Volstandigts to be major threats.
Just shut up Bob...

Yhwach is the leader of the quincy and they see him as majesty also he's shown to casually slice apart yamamoto who was struggling with his minion royld

When the fuck did Yamamoto struggle with RyodYhwach, you idiot? He was basically even with him and the second he went Bankai, the fight was done.

His on screen feats do

>Let me show big boom and how no other Espada did the big boom thus he's the strongest
I guess by that logic, no one in Dragonball, not even Super, is Solar System level because the biggest boom we have is Planets exploding...
Honest to god, I feel VS. Debaters have truly become retarded like you because they fall into the visuals far more than what the story itself tells you.

Wonderweiss did the same thing

So that proves nothing infact aizen's minion did better then royld did

And missed the fact that he barely restrained Yamamoto as he was easily able to rip off ALL OF HIS ARMS and then immediately one shot him after.
Yes, Wonderweiss did better than RyodYhwach...

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Mask gives R2 Ulq a diamond cutter

Gives Harribel the F5

 

[Bob74h]

>Arm gets wrecked and he couldn't even see Ichigo blindside him

Why does it matter that ichigo damaged his arm, When ichigo also would of damaged quilge if not for blut vene?

Yeah, Ebern was doing fine against Bankai Ichigo...

Yep looks he did just fine to me

but guess kurosaki kun was not booking from ebern's laser blast

also showed Volstandigt Quilge with an Ayon powerup(who was able to injure him at that) couldn't do fucking dick to Bankai Ichigo

So what your telling me is that volstag quilge = Shikai ichigo

and bankai ichigo = ayon enhanced quilge

you know this line of reasoning would put ebern above quilge

>Let me show big boom and how no other Espada did the big boom thus he's the strongest

not my stance lol

feats no context is your stance not mine

Who is the one solely arguing quilge on the basis of his feats versus ichigo versus me who's arguing on the basis of his portrayal


and even then a feat based argument works for the espada as there's not much statements and even then feat based arguments can work when their aint any major narrative contradiction had like uqirorra being above harrbel
her being the queen of hueco mundo means nothing when she took place of aizen as ruler meaning the strongest does not always rule and even then wouldt matter anyway as uqirorra would be dead so couldt be king anyway

Uqiorra literally still nukes haribel with lanza del rampargo and sadly she still has no place within relevant espada tiers
Starrk,Grimmjow and Uqiorra still one shot the weak women

relevant espada after fodder queen of hueco mundo gets 1 shot

When the fuck did Yamamoto struggle with RyodYhwach, you idiot?

Start of the fight
Royld cut apart yama's shikai flames

 

[Qinglong]

what you quote:

Ebern was doing fine against Bankai Ichigop

What you reply

Yep looks he did just fine to me

but guess kurosaki kun was not booking from ebern's laser blast

What you screenshot:



at a timestamp of... 0:55, of your own video by the way, when ichigo goes bankai at... 1:05, again, your own video

seriously, you make this too easy

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Why does it matter that ichigo damaged his arm, When ichigo also would of damaged quilge if not for blut vene?

Bob...
Ichigo actually required Bankai against Quilge, he explicitly didn't against Ebern and he had to basically tell him to go Bankai and Ichigo just obliged.

Yep looks he did just fine to me

but guess kurosaki kun was not booking from ebern's laser blast

Wow, he didn't want to endanger the people of town while fighting Ebern, seriously, what the fuck?

So what your telling me is that volstag quilge = Shikai ichigo

and bankai ichigo = ayon enhanced quilge

you know this line of reasoning would put ebern above quilge

... I'm not even gonna argue against this retarded logic because even a 5 year old can tell you how stupid this is...

not my stance lol

feats no context is your stance not mine

Who is the one solely arguing quilge on the basis of his feats versus ichigo versus me who's arguing on the basis of his portrayal


and even then a feat based argument works for the espada as there's not much statements and even then feat based arguments can work when their aint any major narrative contradiction had like uqirorra being above harrbel
her being the queen of hueco mundo means nothing when she took place of aizen as ruler meaning the strongest does not always rule and even then wouldt matter anyway as uqirorra would be dead so couldt be king anyway

Uqiorra literally still nukes haribel with lanza del rampargo and sadly she still has no place within relevant espada tiers
Starrk,Grimmjow and Uqiorra still one shot the weak women

relevant espada after fodder queen of hueco mundo gets 1 shot

>Not my stance
>Proceeds to give complete nonanswers that is going full "I want to believe in Big Booms completely mattering above anything else" logic.
>Ends with a retarded Madara Uchiha quote
This is the logic of Bob

Start of the fight
Royld cut apart yama's shikai flames

And what did Wonderweiss do exactly in comparison to pretend that it would be a threat to the Sternritter?

 

[Vespa Crabro]

guys you have to stop using big words

he's illiterate

 

[Claudio Swiss]

 

[OrlandoSky]

Is this a serious question? Even the weaker Sternritter fuck up most of the Espada. Post-timeskip Shunsui got fucked over by a rando sternritter and he took out Aizen’s best Espada with shikai. Renji even says SS has been training nonstop for two years to prevent another Aizen incident and thd Sternritter completely steamrolled their forces with almost 0 collateral even before stealing their bankai.

seriously the Top Espada pay off was so underwhelming, even Aizen was unimpressed and said fuck it before swatting Harribel out of the way

 

[B Rabbit]

I'm pretty sure SS would have performed alot better if they weren't blind sided and without their Bankai. Not saying what the sternritters did were not impressive.

 

[Adamant soul]

I'm pretty sure SS would have performed alot better if they weren't blind sided and without their Bankai. Not saying what the sternritters did were not impressive.

I mean they get their Bankai back later and it didn't really make much difference, since it lets the Nazis use Vollstanding which maintains the status quo of the Captains generally being outmatched regardless.

It's the training they all do between invasions that actually makes the difference, I doubt they'd have fared much better in the 1st invasion even if they weren't blindsided.

 

[B Rabbit]

I mean they get their Bankai back later and it didn't really make much difference, since it lets the Nazis use Vollstanding which maintains the status quo of the Captains generally being outmatched regardless.

It's the training they all do between invasions that actually makes the difference, I doubt they'd have fared much better in the 1st invasion even if they weren't blindsided.

That's true.

Like I said the last time I read reach was when it was weekly so I forgot everyone did training.

I only thought about Renji, Rukia and Ichigo.

 

[B Rabbit]

And Kenpachi.