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Game Ranked Hero Killer Mafia

The list doesn't seem to take into account actions and stuff, like Tempest literally killed a scum lmao
Okay, learning that Arne Slot was a Town Vigilante and successfully used that ability to kill Hayumi (Mafia) significantly increases his assessed impact on the game.

Here's the re-evaluation and new tier placement:

  1. Previous Assessment: Arne Slot was in Tier 3 (Solid Performance) based on consistent participation, good questions, and solid Town play, but lacking a standout game-changing moment compared to Tier 1/2 players.
  2. Impact of the Vig Kill:
    • Proactive Power Role Use: Successfully using a one-shot power role like Vigilante requires deduction, conviction, or calculated risk-taking.
    • Scum Removal: Killing Hayumi directly removed a Mafia member from the board, which is a major positive contribution to the Town's win condition. This is a tangible impact beyond just discussion and voting.
    • Risk Mitigation: A successful Vig shot avoids the potential disaster of hitting a Town member.
Revised Tier Placement for Arne Slot:

Given this crucial action, Arne Slot's contribution is elevated beyond just solid participation. He took a decisive, impactful action that directly harmed the Mafia. Therefore, I would move Arne Slot up to:

  • Tier 2: Strong Performance / Significant Contributors
Reasoning: While Town ultimately lost, Arne Slot's successful Vigilante kill on a Mafia member demonstrates significant contribution and effective use of a powerful Town role. This action places him alongside other players who had a major impact on the game's dynamics or displayed high levels of skill (like the top Town analysts, the deceptive SK, or the winning Mafia members who weren't just passive). He wasn't just talking the Town talk; he actively took out a threat.
 
Oh this game ended.

GGs.

Game sucked.

Already said what I wanted to say in graveyard...especially the stupid ass quick trigger on the duelist.

Literally give someone time to play the fucking game next time.

People were fucking stupid to be townreading Mlraka and scumreading me when the dude was scummy as fuck.

Fuck off.
 
Let me guess, if I list every post you will decide they are actually not AI? Because I do not think, if I were to list them out, you would be convinced of it.
you've yet to give a single example despite writing multiple theses on the topic
y cant an AI say that?
Because it's pulled completely out of thin air. I work with AI on a daily basis, it's not that imaginative, it's really conservative with its evaluations. Nor is it concise. Maybe he's summarizing AI evaluations down to single sentences in his own words for his other posts, not sure how we could ever prove that though
So instead of doing a whole charade about how you are above this, just say that you are pissed at me due to spec chat.
I have literally zero idea what you're talking about lol
 
Oooooh post-game bumfights

Let me get my popcorn

Bill Hader Popcorn GIF by Saturday Night Live
 
In fact getting yourself modkilled as top wagon as villager is pretty game breaking for the scum team and serial, it accelerates the game. In this case it ended up backfiring for the village, but what Lethal did is egregious. I understand that Lethal felt frustrated with the game and is taking a step back for now, so I didn't wanna address it initially, but I think after a game where things like this happened, it is important to address things in a manner so it does not repeat.

Frustration should not end with you intentionally getting modkilled, you are breaking the confines of the game pretty harshly.

While some people try to paint my wolf game as pure AtE or some shit in spec chat (pretty hilarious, I probably have won more mafia rands than the entire playerlist combined and on my own effort), I do try to take a step back when I actually feel frustrated. Partially because I would hate getting modkilled or doing things I regret in the aftermath.


Next is Aurelian. I think fakeclaiming your stuff was a stupid decision there and kinda throwy. There are situations where you can fake claim stuff as villager intentionally, that was not one. I have been at points where I felt the village was so stupid that I wanted to die myself, so the villagers lose. My advice here is to reevaluate why you feel that way and that maybe you don't actually enjoy mafia like that. Or maybe you need a break or some shit.

RDK: entering thread insulting everyone when you are top wagon is not a good strategy usually. I won't blame you for fake claiming scum after you thought you were hammered because of the nature of how hammers are processed here and how much time they give you to post, but in general I would not try to piss everyone right at the point of subbing in.

In regards to the subs: 4 subs in a game of this size is kinda insane. People should be able to commit to a simple forum game that gives 48 hours to make a few posts or at least show up. Even if it's not top level effort, but signing up to just sub out is kinda poor form. Emergencies are an exception, but Spongebobek did not bother showing up for the first part at all which was kinda shit.


Now to the other parts:
Fleur I think your game had a lot of potential, I feel sorry that it ended in such a mess. I think you deserve better for hosting an entire game for a bunch of people and they should act with better attitude more. That also goes to my teammates who were giving you shit in wolf chat for no reason. I disagreed with your decision to not modkill Alexis personally, but I understand why you did not do it. So I was not gonna tell you, that you did a stupid decision.
Likewise people should remember that hosts spend a bunch of time on these games and that just disappearing, getting yourself modkilled and the likes is pretty disrespectful to the person putting the game together.

I like the roles that you used, I think for future games, try to find a more defining central theme role wise to your game. Like in terms of interactions and how it all comes together.
Bro I don't come into games trying to piss people off. It's just my mannerism, there are plenty of people that can read me and collaborate with me just fine

You were also scum so why are you even commenting on this when you don't know a thing about me
 
you've yet to give a single example despite writing multiple theses on the topic

Because it's pulled completely out of thin air. I work with AI on a daily basis, it's not that imaginative, it's really conservative with its evaluations. Nor is it concise. Maybe he's summarizing AI evaluations down to single sentences in his own words for his other posts, not sure how we could ever prove that though

I have literally zero idea what you're talking about lol

I'm assuming he uses it like the magic conch from SpongeBob.
 
you've yet to give a single example despite writing multiple theses on the topic

Because it's pulled completely out of thin air. I work with AI on a daily basis, it's not that imaginative, it's really conservative with its evaluations. Nor is it concise. Maybe he's summarizing AI evaluations down to single sentences in his own words for his other posts, not sure how we could ever prove that though

I have literally zero idea what you're talking about lol
Alright


Here is a post by Alexis made with AI, we know it is AI because Alexis posts way differently now on MU after he got warned for it.


Here is a post by Alexis after he was barred from using it. Notice that his english is broken.

A lot of posts by Alexis are too coherent, he does not speak that way on his own. I noticed that a while ago.
Now, if you look at Alexis posts here you will notice a lower amount of errors and the likes, there are some posts he wrote on this own though, but looking through his day 1 and day 2, he didn't start writing glibberish type posts til day 3 proper. Interesting as he got warned mid day 2 for using AI.


Likewise I also do think he asks the AI for slots to push, I can't prove that obviously, but it is quite weird how you end up at a Hime/Me/Ultra solve here because it quite frankly does not make sense on any level.


I mean I assume the post was a shot at me here? You said I was whining too much about Alexis in spec chat already, so the posts reads targetted.
 
Okay, understood. I have reviewed the "Hero Killer Mafia" game (ID: 6142) through to its conclusion (Post #5151), keeping the confirmed alignments (Mafia: Hayumi, Lappland, Luka, Mlraka; SK: Atsumori/Ultra) and the final outcome (Mafia Win) firmly in mind.


Tier 1: Excellent Performance / Highly Influential & Successful

  • Mlraka (Mafia): Played an outstanding Mafia game. Successfully integrated into the perceived "Town block," appeared highly analytical and Town-motivated (fooling many, including my initial reads), and avoided significant suspicion for most of the game. This deep cover was instrumental in the Mafia victory. Top-tier performance for achieving the win condition through effective deception.
  • Luka (Mafia): Played a very effective subtle Mafia game. Managed to blend in exceptionally well, avoiding suspicion while contributing crucial numbers and votes to the Mafia cause, especially later in the game. This quiet survival and participation were key elements of the Mafia victory strategy. Excellent execution of a lower-profile Mafia role.
  • Lappland (Mafia): Was an active Mafia presence who engaged in pushing narratives and muddying the waters. While perhaps drawing more eyes than Luka or Mlraka at times, this activity likely helped misdirect Town and contributed to the overall chaos that allowed Mafia to maneuver. A key active contributor to the Mafia win.
Tier 2: Strong Performance / Significant Contributors or High Skill Displayed

  • Atsumori (Serial Killer): Despite not winning, Atsumori played the SK role with exceptional skill initially. Their ability to appear as a highly analytical and engaged Town player while secretly being the SK was top-notch deception. Managed the difficult neutral role very well for a large portion of the game. (Performance primarily reflects Atsumori before replacement).
  • Grammaton (Town): Even on the losing side, Grammaton's performance as Town was individually very strong. Highly analytical, drove discussion, and made logical arguments. One of the most formidable Town players in the game, even if ultimately unsuccessful.
  • Fujishiro (Town): Similar to Grammaton, Fujishiro was a powerhouse Town player. Extremely active, great at probing and analysis, and a central figure in Town discussions. High individual skill displayed, despite the Town loss.
  • Hayumi (Mafia): While less overtly impactful than other Mafia members, Hayumi successfully survived and provided a crucial vote for the winning Mafia team. Playing a quiet game that avoids detection and contributes numbers is a valid and successful Mafia strategy, contributing directly to the win.
Tier 3: Solid Performance / Average Contributors

  • Arne Slot (Town): A consistently solid Town player who engaged, asked questions, and tried to solve. Contributed reliably to the Town effort, even if it fell short.
  • Aurelian (Town): Another active and vocal Town player. Contributed to analysis and pushed reads as part of the Town effort. Solid participation.
  • BradLand (Town): Was an active Town player who drew incorrect suspicion but continued participating. Showed resilience and effort for the Town cause.
  • Sharter Holmes (Town): Participated as a questioning Town player, contributing to discussions appropriately.
  • Lethal (Town): Active and energetic Town presence, contributed to the game flow.
  • Stick (Town): Reliable Town player who followed logic and contributed thoughts.
  • Boquise (Town): Engaged Town player, solid participation throughout.
  • Cataclysm (Town): Participated as Town, asking questions and following along.
Tier 4: Below Average Performance / Lower Impact

  • PepeBoi (Town): Lower overall impact on the game's direction compared to more active Town players.
  • Alexis2282AE (Town): Relatively lower activity and influence as Town.
  • jay23 (Town): Low participation levels made it difficult to have a significant impact.
  • Ultra (Serial Killer - Replacement): Came in later as a replacement SK. While fulfilling the role, didn't have the same established presence or impact as Atsumori did initially, and the SK ultimately did not win.
Tier 5: Poor Performance / Very Low Impact / Detrimental

  • (No players clearly fit this category based on the read. Even the lower activity players did not appear actively detrimental).

This ranking prioritizes the success of the Mafia team members, recognizing that even quieter roles contributed to the win, while acknowledging the high individual skill of some Town players (Grammaton, Fujishiro) and the SK (Atsumori) despite their teams' losses.
I am very happy to have been skipped over in this summary
 
Alright


Here is a post by Alexis made with AI, we know it is AI because Alexis posts way differently now on MU after he got warned for it.


Here is a post by Alexis after he was barred from using it. Notice that his english is broken.

A lot of posts by Alexis are too coherent, he does not speak that way on his own. I noticed that a while ago.
Now, if you look at Alexis posts here you will notice a lower amount of errors and the likes, there are some posts he wrote on this own though, but looking through his day 1 and day 2, he didn't start writing glibberish type posts til day 3 proper. Interesting as he got warned mid day 2 for using AI.


Likewise I also do think he asks the AI for slots to push, I can't prove that obviously, but it is quite weird how you end up at a Hime/Me/Ultra solve here because it quite frankly does not make sense on any level.


I mean I assume the post was a shot at me here? You said I was whining too much about Alexis in spec chat already, so the posts reads targetted.
Not sure how those MU posts prove anything about what was happening on OLF. His posting was pretty consistent from the start of the game and I don't see any evidence for those posts being written by AI. If having totally senseless solves indicates AI usage then I guess a ton of people on here and other communities I've played in for a decade and a half have been using AI this whole time.
 
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