this may have been done before but I forget. Working together how do they do against the verse
Kong and Godzilla (Monsterverse) vs DCEU
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Who could stop them? Can Superman even lift him?
I heard Superman in this continuity was continent level or something
Also havent seen the Snyder Cut so idk what feats came from that yet
Also havent seen the Snyder Cut so idk what feats came from that yet
He was considered continent level due to a Christopher Reeve homage where a newspaper clipping said he lifted a tectonic plate
OrlandoSky
Paramount
I don't know about other feats but that one feat in UE of BvS is part of the Snydervserse canon and not the DCEU canon.
It doesn’t matter because it’s literally a newspaper clipping without any actual context
OrlandoSky
Paramount
shifting a tectonic plate is really the only context needed because that's a massive piece of planet crust.
Its literally a Christopher Reeve Homage/easter egg, and it happened off screen.
compare that with Snyder Supes almost dying because of Nuke and I’ll bet my bottom dollar the newspaper context is unreliable
OrlandoSky
Paramount
It's still a canon feat that can be quantified. By that logic the nuke showing wouldn't matter because it was an homage to the Frank Miller nuke from TDKR. It Wouldn't matter either way because of Superman having showing City level feats like tank blasts from Doomsday (after it absorbed the power from said nuke) and shattering the World engine while it was flattening a mountain and redecorating the planet from the inside out while he was weakened. Not to mention his withered appearance points more to chemical damage from the radiation poison of the nuke than the sheer force of blast damaging him.
it quite literally cannot be quantified because the feat isn’t actually shown or given any context on how it went down.
Except you actually SEE the nuke, and you can measure how powerful the Nuke was, which is not the same as a statement made in passing by a newspaper that doesn’t give you any context on HOW it happened. Again, an easter egg
that’s a false equivalence
Both those feats had Clark in near death. World Engine was calced to be Town Level+ while the Nuke was City Level+
Tectonic plate is much higher and contradicts shown feats
OrlandoSky
Paramount
It says he moved the tectonic plate...simple deduction dictates he pushed it even a slight change in positive for a mass that large is gonna bring in big numbers.
Moving objects is basic physics my dude.
from an outdated calc it's literal shockwaves were destroying mountains and re-shaping the earth from the inside out, hell even the official novelization for the film elaborated that just the impact of the engine hitting the ground shook the entire planet. And Superman blasted through it while weakened and constantly blasted dead-center by the increasing force of it's gravity beam.
Other than the fact that he took the force of said nuke from Doomsday after it was absorbed and he scared the shit out of a life-wiping Mother Box, sure why not. You can try to low-end him as much as you want but you don't really have any legs to stand on.
No shit?
there is a huge difference between us calcing the nuke we can see
And us making an arbitrary judgment over a feat being a “big number”
confounded with the fact that its a throw away line
It doesn’t even tell you which tectonic plate he moved to begin with.
He could’ve shifted the Arabian Plate, or the Juan de Fuca plate or whatever it is.
Point towards a better calc or approximation then.
we saw the Metropolis one flatten buildings. We didn’t see the other flatten mountains. It sent a bunch of debris but that mountain it was besides was intact.
even giving the benefit of the doubt and saying that the World Engine weakened Clark? it was still a Town Level explosion as is.
Literally none of this proves the explosion was country level.
the City Level feat of the nuke actually comes from the High End, not the low end.
Here is the feat of Christopher Reeve that the newspaper clipping was alluding to
He starts at @0:14 and finishes at @2:05
He starts at @0:14 and finishes at @2:05
OrlandoSky
Paramount
Obviously use the Juan de Fuca plate it's the smallest tectonic plate and nudging it just one meter brings the newtons force to 11 Gigatons...It's really not that hard. It's literally the absolute lowest end and the absolute bare minimum of what's needed to pull off this feat which is how the OBD has always gone about approaching feats like this. This shit's not hard to comprehend bro lol
Just using a Magnitude 4 end where it's assumed the world is shaking without anything breaking apart.
(Magnitude at distance) + 6.399 + 1.66×log((distance from epicenter in KM/110)×((2×π)/360)) = Richter Magnitude of Earthquake
half of the Circumference of earth (20037.5 km)
(4) + 6.399+1.66×log((20037.5÷110) × ((2×π)÷360)) = Magnitude 11.2328648415
convert the magnitude's force into joules for the needed force
10^(1.5x(11.2328648415)+4.8) = 4.4596139e+21j = 1.06 Teratons = Small Country level
There that literally just took me a couple of minutes and that's not even accounting for it flattening a nearby by mountain with it's gravity beam or that two of them were reshaping the entire planet's gravitational and magnetic field from the inside out
You might wanna check again
Nobody said anything about a country level explosion dipshit.
The missile exploded far passed the karmic line and lit up the entire metropolis sky. Even city level is generous and the fact that Superman wasn't burned/singed or physically damaged shows that was injured by its ionic radiation not the force or the heat of the explosion so your attempt at lowballing here is really ineffectual.
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Lmao did you seriously just pull up a screenshot of the thing literally covering everything in debris?You might wanna check again
You realize you can actually see the mountain when the world engine is destroyed, right?
We are talking about the feats being consistent to Superman supposedly being Continent Level
Except we literally have the feat of Chris Reeve fixing the fissure within the San Andreas fault too, the video which I posted right here. That’s the feat the Newspaper is making a reference to
That isn’t the Juan De Fuca plate.
1. It didn’t destroy the mountain, like I showed
2. Divide the energy in two, because it took both world engine lasers to cause that. Superman only took the one in the Indian ocean
3. take into account surface area with Superman, since Henry is 185 cm
4. that’s not even the calc I was telling you about. I meant the calc you said was outdated. Which was Clark destroying the World Engine, which was calced by Vivi
OrlandoSky
Paramount
You literally see it destroyed in the background
And it's destroyed just like in the picture I showed you, Einstein. It's literally a pile of fucking rubbleYou realize you can actually see the mountain when the world engine is destroyed, right?
No what we're talking about is the legitimacy of the tectonic plate feat itself....
You...are aware the Donnerverse isn't canon to Cavil's Superman right?
It did like we both showed so way to play yourself
Which wouldn't downgrade it by any tiers.
Except he was blasted directly underneath it and was taking its full force from the epicenter and destroyed the whole thing
Which is further proof that it's outdated since he hasn't been around for like half a decade. Not to mention the evidence I showed you further proves my point.
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Maddie
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Densities and porosities in the oceanic crust and their variations with depth and age
We have used drilling and downhole logging results (from Deep Sea Drilling Project holes 395A and 418A), measured properties of core samples from the seafloor and from ophiolites, and seismic velocit...
Average density of oceanic crust is 2.86 grams per cubic centimeter
The Pacific Plate is 100 km thick and 103,300,000 km^2
103,300,000 km^2 * 100 km * 2.86 g/cm^3 = 2.95438e22 kilograms
Most powerful earthquake in recorded history was the Valdivia Earthquake which was 240.44 cm/s
Gives me a ke of 853,701,438,205,309,077,280,000 joules or 204.04 teratons of tnt
So at it's highest end Superman isn't continental but still pretty damn deep into country level
What was Godzilla's Hollow Earth feat calced at?
Literally what?
i’m gonna do this one seperatly
you can clearly see the mountain still intact when you see Superman destroy the World Engine
the shit your showing is literally obscured by debris so you can’t see anything except the world engine
Again, the mountain is still in-tact when everything clears uo
You are aware the entire feat is literally an homage to Donner’s feat
I don’t care about it downgrading or not. You talk about calcs being “outdated” and yet you don’t do your own due diligence with it
He was at the epicenter. But like Superman with the Sun Eater explosion and Thor with the Star Forge (I think that was the name) you still have to do surface area to see how much his body took due to size
Calcs don’t suddenly become outdated just because a poster doesn’t post anymore
they become outdated if there are inherent contradictions
which is not the case here, because so far you haven’t even touched the World Engine’s Exploding. Just the laser that Superman tanked, which is a separate feat
the Hollow Earth breath feat was lower than I remembered, netted GigatonsDensities and porosities in the oceanic crust and their variations with depth and age
We have used drilling and downhole logging results (from Deep Sea Drilling Project holes 395A and 418A), measured properties of core samples from the seafloor and from ophiolites, and seismic velocit...agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com
Average density of oceanic crust is 2.86 grams per cubic centimeter
The Pacific Plate is 100 km thick and 103,300,000 km^2
103,300,000 km^2 * 100 km * 2.86 g/cm^3 = 2.95438e22 kilograms
Most powerful earthquake in recorded history was the Valdivia Earthquake which was 240.44 cm/s
Gives me a ke of 853,701,438,205,309,077,280,000 joules or 204.04 teratons of tnt
So at it's highest end Superman isn't continental but still pretty damn deep into country level
What was Godzilla's Hollow Earth feat calced at?
https://www.fanverse.org/blogs/godzilla-vs-kong-godzillas-atomic-breath.37732/
the Hollow Earth entrance feat was still petatons though
https://www.fanverse.org/blogs/godzilla-vs-kong-monke-feats.37750/