VS Battle Lambda Usagi vs Son Goku

[AllForOne]

I think its finally time for the epic showdown.

We'll be using the new and improved Eternal edition manga for Usagi. This is essentially the 'perfect' and final english translation of the original manga.

VS

Round 1: Lambda Usagi vs canon SSB/UI Goku from the DBS Anime and Manga

Round 2: Speed equalized

Round 3: Bloodlusted

Battle takes place at the Galaxy Cauldron or Universe 7

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Please note this is not Sailor Cosmos but Usagi using the Lambda Power from the Cosmos Crystal (no known differences power-wise)

 

[Qinglong]

Don't both cosmos and Usagi have have time travel?

 

[AllForOne]

Don't both cosmos and Usagi have have time travel?

Mhm.

She can manipulate space-time too. Restored history after Chaos' meddling with the timeline.

 

[King of time]

Mhm.

She can manipulate space-time too. Restored history after Chaos' meddling with the timeline.

Hm. If I remember correctly, she can destroy a universe of infinite size?

 

[AllForOne]

Hm. If I remember correctly, she can destroy a universe of infinite size?

She restored the universe and timeline by turning it into a static one.

 

[King of time]

She restored the universe and timeline by turning it into a static one.

If so then she wins here, db's universe is just a universe of finite size

 

[Mondak]

If she beats Goku, who in DBS is needed to beat her? Angels? Zeno?

 

[King of time]

If she beats Goku, who in DBS is needed to beat her? Angels? Zeno?

Angels won't be enough to defeat her, Zeno will oneshot her

 

[Mondak]

Angels won't be enough to defeat her, Zeno will oneshot her

Couldn't the Angels seal her? Unless she has a counter for that

 

[AllForOne]

Couldn't the Angels seal her? Unless she has a counter for that

She has sealing too but I don't remember her breaking out of any seals.

Hakai definitely won't work since she's got Mid-Godly regen.

 

[Claudio Swiss]

Dragon Ball universe has infinite size arguments so that isn't saving her frankly

 

[Qinglong]

If the new manga scans are actually correct then Time travel pretty much seals it

 

[Claudio Swiss]

Don't dragon ball follow different time travel rules
Don't see her killing a baby Goku doing much when the main one gonna be where she went ?

 

[Qinglong]

constant resetting wasn't working in the fight against chaos but the lambda power made the timeline static

at least going from new scans I've seen posted on forums

unless that's not what that scan actually means

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Don't dragon ball follow different time travel rules
Don't see her killing a baby Goku doing much when the main one gonna be where she went ?

that's more of a quirk of how DB's cosmology works than anything Goku can actually do himself
unless the fight takes place within the DB universe I can't see it coming into play?

 

[AllForOne]

constant resetting wasn't working in the fight against chaos but the lambda power made the timeline static

at least going from new scans I've seen posted on forums

unless that's not what that scan actually means

Pretty much.

 

[AllForOne]

Dragon Ball universe has infinite size arguments so that isn't saving her frankly

He isn't getting past the mid-godly regen.

Honestly there is no way Universe 7 can be infinite when you can take a ship to another universe. Its finite by the source material.

 

[Gordo]

He isn't getting past the mid-godly regen.

Honestly there is no way Universe 7 can be infinite when you can take a ship to another universe. Its finite by the source material.

No ship has ever traveled to other universes in DB

Only divine beings that can cross dimensions are shown to travel to other universes. The source material is very consistent on that

 

[AllForOne]

No ship has ever traveled to other universes in DB

Only divine beings that can cross dimensions are shown to travel to other universes. The source material is very consistent on that

The box ship ring a bell? Its called a spaceship.

They take it pretty normally from universe 7 to universe 6 without ever crossing any sort of dimensional barrier.

 

[AllForOne]

Only divine beings that can cross dimensions are shown to travel to other universes. The source material is very consistent on that

Also never defines whether it is impossible or not for a mortal to do so compared to a god. It could very well be that divine beings are granted this special permission due to their status.

The source material backs up my argument.