This is literally what ekko wrote:
Which translates as ‘I can’t play ranked bullshit atm so let’s change the rules so I can’
Because not everyone wants to solely play vanilla style games for ranked. I think that's what Ekko's point was. Or at least what he was trying to get at with the whole "select few" games being ranked being potentially RM style set ups.
we can get players from offsite to eventually stick around here which would mean there will be roughly about same number of people with ws style vs other style mindsets. my preposition is allowing them to run ranked games so long as its approved by a host from their community if required. then the game itself will mostly be filled by players from that community but im okay with that
I mean half of the community here is basically NF/AFH guys and we are trying to have this section grow. That means hoping the activity here attracts people from off-site to join us by either word of mouth or promotion. You see why this has to be addressed right? The more people join and play from WS/WF/TMF and NF/FV, more people are gonna question why is x this and y that way.That’s all fine and dandy but when ekko talks of making that style of game ranked and then full it up with offsiters, you see where the problem lies
I mean half of the community here is basically NF/AFH guys and we are trying to have this section grow. That means hoping the activity here attracts people from off-site to join us by either word of mouth or promotion. You see why this has to be addressed right? The more people join and play from WS/WF/TMF and NF/FV, more people are gonna question why is x this and y that way.
I think this is fine too but this discussion was bound to happen at some point or another as different communities are bound to clash. Another possibility is having separate sub-sections for different games.They are free to make their own rankings or whatever if they don’t want to adhere to what’s already in place
I think this is fine too but this discussion was bound to happen at some point or another as different communities are bound to clash. Another possibility is having separate sub-sections for different games.
define balance and silly shit please"Style" has nothing to do with it, it's about relative balance and a lack of silly shit.
why is this obvious? why cant an open or semi open setup be ranked? we had one here in radiant mafia and it ran just fine. as long as its not bastard i really dont see the issue pls elaborate on whats the hold up.It’s not for me to make a ruling, but it should be obvious why a game with partial but not full setup disclosure when it comes to roles can’t be ranked. It’s supposed to be a competitive game.
we dont want to turn this into another WG. we just want to use the playerbase that we have here in addition to WG/NF players to create a larger player base for more competitive or larger numbers experienceAs for the rest of this, it’s pure nonsense. If you want to play WG games, go play on WG. I honestly don’t understand your obsession with making a group of people who want to play a distinct type of game with certain assurances of the notes it will try to hit, then abandon that to play something there is 0 appetite for, only for the sake of appeasing your masturbatory need to drive change for changes sake.
Fundamentally I only speak for myself but I’m fairly confident there is consensus among us, and I’d ask that if you wanna play with us, respect our traditions rather than trying to turn this section into another WG for people who don’t want to wait in their queue to host
thats fine we can just split it and run games concurrently if thats the case, tho i dont see whats the hold up in being open to styles of other communities“Our style” is just “no bullshit” so no
If they wanna run their own rankings through this site as refugees then that’s not really up to me, you’d have to ask one of the admins. I wouldn’t be getting involved in their stuff or including their stuff in my rankings or queues tho
Just give out a separate rankings list for those who want to do SRM games or role madness games that stray from the typical Mafia games vanilla formula. Poyser and gram can deal with their ranked games and sigis and me can deal with the casual games
define balance and silly shit please
u know that's silly. style is everything about these games. im convinced thats the case now
why is this obvious? why cant an open or semi open setup be ranked? we had one here in radiant mafia and it ran just fine. as long as its not bastard i really dont see the issue pls elaborate on whats the hold up.
we dont want to turn this into another WG. we just want to use the playerbase that we have here in addition to WG/NF players to create a larger player base for more competitive or larger numbers experience
we want to have every now and then a game thats balanced and reviewd by someone but not inherently ws style and have it be considered ranked. is that asking too much? it wont have batshit mechanics nor be unbalanced.
thats fine we can just split it and run games concurrently if thats the case, tho i dont see whats the hold up in being open to styles of other communities
the games here r filled with half ws half non ws players. i think its only fair for everyone to have it such rhat every now n then allow a non ws style game to be filled
for instance, sockpuppet was deemed unranked when it shud be ranked. no explaination was provided for why.
fang's game could turn out more balanced than some of the ranked games we have here. he will have someone review it. i honestly dont see the hold up personally
They are free to make their own rankings or whatever if they don’t want to adhere to what’s already in place
Respectfully, I’d rather recruit 2 people that wanna play proper mafia over 10 people that just wanna play bullshit
Literally nobody from our section (as in those that came here in the merge) is interested in playing any of that shite, as anything more than a once in a while blow off and even then I don’t think there’s many. Should we all be waiting weeks or months before there’s a game we can play? Obviously not, and that’s why we allowed a ranked and unranked game to be run at the same time whenever needed.
If you wanna play this bullshit and rank it when you’ll have to create something separate. Maybe create your own subsection for RM and SRM games if it makes you feel better
I think this is fine too but this discussion was bound to happen at some point or another as different communities are bound to clash. Another possibility is having separate sub-sections for different games.
Yeah fwiw I appreciate you’re actually looking for a solution here
I'm thinking we've reached a fair agreement/consensus here.Just give out a separate rankings list for those who want to do SRM games or role madness games that stray from the typical Mafia games vanilla formula. Poyser and gram can deal with their ranked games and sigis and me can deal with the casual games
i dont think SRM should ever be ranked unless it has its own ranked styleThat’s all fine and dandy but when ekko talks of making that style of game ranked and then full it up with offsiters, you see where the problem lies
He’s salty cos he wants to host a ranked game but his idea of a balanced game is horse shit kekThing here is Ekko you're the only one complaining, I haven't seen any strongly negative feedback from cross community members, this is a problem for you that you are presenting as some wider issue
Why would you have rankings for unranked games
I think we just need a subsection, rather you put role madness/SRM games there or the vanilla games there doesn't matter. poyser and gram are more qualified to deal with vanilla/small role madness games and sigis and myself will deal with the casual high role madness/SRM games. Problem solved, don't think this is that big of a deal. It's a niche forum game
He’s salty cos he wants to host a ranked game but his idea of a balanced game is horse shit kek
But unranked games haven’t been filling which is where the complaint comes from
There’s a reason the unranked games aren’t getting filled Ekko lol, most people here just aren’t interested in them
i dont think SRM should ever be ranked unless it has its own ranked style
anything above medium rolemadness doesnt fit ranked
small rolemadness all the way to pure vanilla games can be ranked
is this not correct?
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