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OBD Convo #10: Spirit Never Dies
- Thread starter Claudio Swiss
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Basically, she wants everything extraterrestrial gone. Including the Greater Will.Well, that would explain why she has you go kill Astel during her quest line, though she also had you kill Radagon who was keeping it out so.....
When she talked about crippling people? She actually meant to make it so it would be impossible for people to interact or even meet things like the Greater Will again. The no aliens ending. Or, "Lands Between is only for humans you god damn aliens."
Here's the proper translation of her scene where she tells you what her order entails. Which the English version makes sound like she wants to cripple everyone, and start an ice age.
"About my order
My order will not be one made of gold, but of stars and moon in the chill of the night
And then I will take this power far away, from this land beneath
Right now, life and soul are still bound to the order, I will (separate their connections ?)
And make the inevitability for one to feel it, believe it exists and even touch its presence an impossibility (make it impossible for the order to influence an individual basically)
This is why I will leave these lands, together with the order"
Makes me not hate her as much. Still murdered Godwyn though. Though this puts into question what her motivation was. I guess what she actually wanted was the Shattering to happen. So, that she could enact her plan. And Godwyn was a means to an end for her.
Cold and callous of her to murder her nicest brother but at least it was for a good reason this time. Rather than "lol, I am gonna destroy all life as we know it."
Cold and callous of her to murder her nicest brother but at least it was for a good reason this time. Rather than "lol, I am gonna destroy all life as we know it."
I guess the translators confused order in general, and the golden order.
I bring this up because Malenia's armor is made entirely out of unalloyed gold, and in it we see that she still retains a reverence for her brother.
Honestly ever since I read that first one, I wondered if it might actually have been Miquella manipulating Mogh all this time and not the other way aroundImagine if Miquella is the whole reason why Radagon wanted to fix the Elden Ring.
Mind you, this can also just be read as this being the catalyst for him to switch to unalloyed gold but it can also be read as this being the very first spell of unalloyed gold he attempted. Which he taught Radagon.
Very suspicious regardless since a lot of the magic Radagon knows comes from Miquella.
Because Malenia, Mogh, and even Marika apparently all see Miquella's potential to rise to true godhood. Also note the arm we see in the cocoon has clearly grown; Mohg "raising him to godhood" has found some way to counteract his defect of being born in a child's body. Gideon also clarifies that Miquella is only sleeping, so we know he's not dead.
You know, this is kinda not that surprising. DS1 had a lot of translation issues, like the fact that the Witch of Izalith's name was just "Izalith" being left out of the entire english version of the game. Idk how into the other souls games you are but this guy has a great series of articles breaking down translation differences and how they've created a lot of false urban legends in the lore. https://lokeysouls.com/I wonder if anything else might be mistranslated.
Makes me hate Ranni considerably less.Honestly ever since I read that first one, I wondered if it might actually have been Miquella manipulating Mogh all this time and not the other way around
Because Malenia, Mogh, and even Marika apparently all see Miquella's potential to rise to true godhood. Also note the arm we see in the cocoon has clearly grown; Mohg "raising him to godhood" has found some way to counteract his defect of being born in a child's body. Gideon also clarifies that Miquella is only sleeping, so we know he's not dead.
You know, this is kinda not that surprising. DS1 had a lot of translation issues, like the fact that the Witch of Izalith's name was just "Izalith" being left out of the entire english version of the game. Idk how into the other souls games you are but this guy has a great series of articles breaking down translation differences and how they've created a lot of false urban legends in the lore. https://lokeysouls.com/
Still wish she didn't kill Godwyn though. Guy was the best demigod of the lot, and the only one willing to listen to reason.
However, it also makes sense that killing him would cause the most chaos. Since he was the most beloved demigod even by Marika herself.
yeah I really can't figure out why she would have killed him
it doesn't really line up with anything we know about her or him
like Godwyn was such a bro he basically saved the dragons that were attacking him
he's a saint by soulsborne standards, especially with how gods are portrayed in their other games lol
She admits to it though, and I imagine it's because a lot of people would be able to overlook the death of the other demigods. Imagine if she had Mohg assassinated instead. Literally nobody would care, and the Shattering probably wouldn't have happened. And the Shattering is essential to what she plans to do.
Godwyn reminds me of Baldur actually. Serves the same purpose too.
Mohg would probably be glad considering his last words when you beat him
that reminds me
there's a ton of post death dialogue in Elden Ring and it's throwing me off because it only ever happened twice in dark souls, with Aldia and Father Ariandel. I wonder what the significance of it is with Malenia or Mohg etc
there's a ton of post death dialogue in Elden Ring and it's throwing me off because it only ever happened twice in dark souls, with Aldia and Father Ariandel. I wonder what the significance of it is with Malenia or Mohg etc
Makes me feel even worse for Malenia. Cursed with the scarlet rot. Mind controlled by her brother. Her lover is a lunatic who loves the god that cursed her, and her daughters with exception of Millicent also worship the scarlet rot.
And everyone around her that actually cares about her dies because of it.
And everyone around her that actually cares about her dies because of it.
Revice is also really good.
it's karma for how she did Radahn
Would be if she didn't start out that way at birth. I blame Miquella for that now. Since Malenia had her armor even then. That little shit is to blame I reckon. Probably because he wanted the stars back so he could become a full god.it's karma for how she did Radahn
In the Eternal City there is a Lord of the Night who is another Outer God, and I believe he is the one who cursed Miquella with eternal childhood. It's who the Nox worshipped.
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